I can't win my lane fast enough to help bot from feeding?

Hallbuster·Mar 21, 2017·1 votes·1,170 views

In short, the secret to climbing out of bronze is to "help" other lanes. But to do so, you have to "dominate" your lane first. Here's the problem I'm having, mid lane players tend to be better on average.... more CS, a better KDA, and overall better mechanics. And under the circumstance, I can't win my lane fast enough before bot lane disappears. Does anyone have a solution for this?

I've tried asking bot lane to play "safe" but apparently, the words they're hearing aren't English: nansdoiansdinasidnandlaisndlasndl.

15 Comments

DynikusMar 21, 20172 votes

Roam. You don't have to have won lane before you can pop by top or bot for a gank.

HallbusterMar 21, 20171 votes

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Roam. You don't have to have won lane before you can pop by top or bot for a gank.

Then mid lane is gone unfortunately.

DynikusMar 21, 20171 votes

I haven't watched this video in particular, but it might give you an idea of when to roam. If not, just google "when to roam as a mid laner" and it should help. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO-bPvj0NQI

The basics as far as I'm aware are clear and push up your wave as fast as possible, back off a little bit so you fall out of sight of the enemy laner, and head bot (or top) when you won't miss out on much if any CS by doing so. So if a new wave just got to mid and there won't be another for 30 seconds, you should be able to clear it, head to another lane, gank, back, and get back to your lane without missing much.

It helps that I tend to play mid laners with good roam like taliyah or a sol, but anyone can do it to some degree of success. Maybe pick up TF since he's not very mechanically difficult. grab a yellow card, ult, then show up in lane and instantly stun someone for almost a guaranteed successful gank.

BLACK REALM GODMar 21, 20171 votes

you could always just play bottom since "mid lane players tend to be better on average"

Rick YiordanMar 21, 20171 votes

another big tip that can get you out of bronze is stop blaming your teamnates

trust me it got me out of bronze just with that tip :)

HallbusterMar 21, 20171 votes

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another big tip that can get you out of bronze is stop blaming your teamnates

trust me it got me out of bronze just with that tip :)

Bot lane fed a total of 20 kills to the enemy in exchange for 2 kills, it's not their fault we lost. Oh, and "turret hugging" or "play safe" isn't in their vocabulary.

Rick YiordanMar 21, 20171 votes

you don't understand, you need to embrace the mentality of 'i will focus on how i am affecting my team and how i can contribute to a win'

this thread really seems like a passive agressive way to just further flame your teamnates

also, roaming bot lane is a completely fine choice, so as long as;

a. you've pushed lane and forced laner to his tower b. your laner has backed (you can force him to do that with help from jg and both can roam bot) c. enemy laner is top/bot/mia

i dont play mid too often and but i do play jg and i garentuee that just asking your jg to camp bot will end up in a won lane

HallbusterMar 21, 20171 votes

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you don't understand, you need to embrace the mentality of 'i will focus on how i am affecting my team and how i can contribute to a win'

this thread really seems like a passive agressive way to just further flame your teamnates

also, roaming bot lane is a completely fine choice, so as long as;

a. you've pushed lane and forced laner to his tower b. your laner has backed (you can force him to do that with help from jg and both can roam bot) c. enemy laner is top/bot/mia

i dont play mid too often and but i do play jg and i garentuee that just asking your jg to camp bot will end up in a won lane

This is pretty good advice, still, there's an additional risk you overlooked. If the enemy champion is excellent at tower tearing, be it Nasus, Ziggs, etc. You really are gambling with your own lane here. Worst case scenario, you have this along with their jungle breaking your tower.

Rick YiordanMar 21, 20171 votes

if you're playing against a strong push champion and you're currently more fed then your jg, ask him to protect lane while you roam bot

this can sometimes lead to your jungle accidently feeding a kill, but but your adc getting two :)

it's all about weighing the risks and deciding whether or not the outcome is worth taking it. like towerdiving a riven who is half hp but the number one rule against playing a riven is ~~not to towerdive riven~~. do you take the risk?

this is something that i think seperates the good from the bad in league, there are players who think about the risk and decide the possible outcomes are too unforgiving or not as worth as the risk it provides. then there are the other players who decide that since they are playing a freelo champion, they can probably outplay.

if your allies dont listen to your verbal help, then gank them. there's no excuse to ask about why you can't carry these guys/prevent these guys from feeding if you haven't successfully ganked them.

but im silver 5 lol dont take it to heart it's just what i do

OtherworldzMar 21, 20171 votes

You shouldn't expect yourself to be able to save bot lane. Most mid players only creep to other lanes for easy kills in order to snowball ahead of the other team's mid. Do you think zed or leblanc are really going to help them win lane? Nope it's all about the snowball, in most cases both are just mutual.

It's up to your jungler to make sure your adc can snowball early enough to win lane, you only need to worry about yourself.

420 gramsMar 21, 20171 votes

Do you actually have stats or are you just saying that? In my experience Mids are worse players.

HallbusterMar 21, 20171 votes

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Do you actually have stats or are you just saying that? In my experience Mids are worse players.

Do you have statistics that say mid lane players are worse. My belief is only on observation.

Colton147Mar 21, 20171 votes

Bot lane does not determine the game. That is entire false.

HallbusterMar 21, 20171 votes

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Bot lane does not determine the game. That is entire false.

The problem with bot lane is if the players end up performing poorly, you end up with 2 hard feeders instead of one. It's a double-edged sword.

EschetonMar 21, 20171 votes

You don't need to own toplane if you play a tank or bruiser with early game scaling. Basically. But if you play a Triforce champ or the like, then yeah, you need kills to get that expensive item first.