Possible Tooltip Needed or Bug For Jungle Creeps?

Yutaji·Mar 13, 2015·1 votes·830 views

I don't jungle hardly ever unless I am stuck with it so I usually don't pay much attention to what goes on in the junglers life (only items and stuff I pay attention too). So I'm not sure if this is supposed to happen.

I understand that the trailblazer burn may not kill the creep but why doesn't the Sunfire Cape? Isn't Sunfire cape just straight damage to all enemies? Gromp buff is a DPS/DOT buff that can execute the larger jungle mobs, I just am very confused.

Like I said I hardly ever jungle so I'm probably just being stupid with this post.

11 Comments

Frost the ReaperMar 13, 20151 votes

That does seem odd. Maybe its a coding issue? I have no idea. normally i have sunfire cape kill off the camp as I'm walking away, but its been a bit since I've jungled with that item on my build.

AHeroNamedHawkeMar 13, 20151 votes

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That does seem odd. Maybe its a coding issue? I have no idea. normally i have sunfire cape kill off the camp as I'm walking away, but its been a bit since I've jungled with that item on my build.

I'm assuming it's due to Sunfire sharing a passive with Cinderhulk

Frost the ReaperMar 13, 20151 votes

This might be the case. If it is the case then Sunfire needs its passive tuned so that it just deals straight magic damage. Its one of the reasons I used to get it early on.

YutajiMar 13, 20151 votes

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I'm assuming it's due to Sunfire sharing a passive with Cinderhulk

The thing is that the passives are the same but also different in just a very tiny way. Jungle item does more to minions while sunfire just does straight up damage.

ElJanitorFrankMar 13, 20151 votes

I know why they did it. Most of the time you want to give blue to your mid laner, so when they inevitably arrive late (basically doing a few hundred damage to you gg) they can take the blue without you accidentally stealing it. Blue is a very important buff, and having it stolen because 'lol sunfire' is extremely irritating.

Though they should add a tooltip, definitely.

YutajiMar 13, 20151 votes

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I know why they did it. Most of the time you want to give blue to your mid laner, so when they inevitably arrive late (basically doing a few hundred damage to you gg) they can take the blue without you accidentally stealing it. Blue is a very important buff, and having it stolen because 'lol sunfire' is extremely irritating.

Though they should add a tooltip, definitely.

This is the jungler and laners fault. They should not add such a time wasting nerf due to the jungler and laner not properly playing. If you start blue and your mid is not coming then go to a camp and rotate back when they have cleared there wave.

I do not believe Riot did this on purpose, but if they did it was foolish without noting or telling us.

ElJanitorFrankMar 13, 20151 votes

Time wasting nerf...? It's 1 damage that it won't do. This is because you don't want to accidentally steal it from your laner.

What if your laner makes it in time, but mis judges their damage? They can still get it. The quill coat did the same thing.

YutajiMar 14, 20151 votes

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Time wasting nerf...? It's 1 damage that it won't do. This is because you don't want to accidentally steal it from your laner.

What if your laner makes it in time, but mis judges their damage? They can still get it. The quill coat did the same thing.

As I said, if they miss it it would be the fault of the laner. Learn how much damage you do. You can hover over your abilities and add how much you can burst plus the big ass HP bar above the buff.

ElJanitorFrankMar 14, 20151 votes

Yeah, after you factor in the MR/Armor, memorize what percentage of the MR/Armor will reduce from your abilities, factor in your penetration...

Or you know, you could just thank Riot for making it possible to get a game changing buff by not letting your jungler steal it accidentally.

YutajiMar 14, 20151 votes

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Yeah, after you factor in the MR/Armor, memorize what percentage of the MR/Armor will reduce from your abilities, factor in your penetration...

Or you know, you could just thank Riot for making it possible to get a game changing buff by not letting your jungler steal it accidentally.

Not at all, seriously dude if you are losing your buffs over and over (because that's how you make it sound) it is 100% your fault. Basic math is not hard even for the children who play this game. It doesn't take a huge list of pen and paper to realize that a lvl 11 leblanc can execute a 200 health blue.

ElJanitorFrankMar 15, 20151 votes

I'm not saying I miss them all the time, but you think you'll never miss? I don't know why you're complaining about it; you're losing out on one damage. For something that could cost your mid laner hundreds of points of mana.