Nerfs to Udyr?

Nekusen··5 votes·739 views

He still seems to be uncounterable, unkillable and extremely strong.

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Marshbouy3 votes

He snowballs hard and can destroy face late game. Don't let him get fed and build armor. Try to have your support peel. I am just a silver pleb so i got nothing else.

MisterShameless2 votes

Udyr has been balanced for 3 seasons. The items this season give him a lot of mobiliy resulting in those movement items getting nerfed. Udyr has always been like this and it has been fine. He has a simple weakness which is CC and bad team fighting power. Take advantage of those weakness because his basically like every other melee champion and needs to be kited or peeled off you. If your team isn't doing this, its not from Udyr (or w.e. champion people hate cause they lost once against) its either you getting caught out or your team not protecting their team mates well enough.

Nekusen1 votes

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Udyr has been OP for 3 seasons.

agreed

He has a simple weakness which is CC

everyone's weakness is CC, but no CC longs long enough to kill Udyr, he also has high synergy with tenacity items.

bad team fighting power.

how is a stun, high tankyness and tons of mixed damage "bad fighting power" ?

needs to be kited

how do you kite the fastest champion in the game?

MisterShameless4 votes

Udyr has no gap closer outside of summoner 4. All he has is movement speed while other champs who jungle have a gap closer. Aatrox Akali Alistar Amumu Diana Ekko Elise Fizz Gragas JarvanIV Jax Khazix Kindred LeeSin Maokai MasterYi Nautilus Pantheon Poppy Quinn RekSai Rengar Sejuani Shaco Shen Vi MonkeyKing XinZhao Zac

These guys can close the gap a lot faster than Udyr can.

Udyr's stun is melee ranged which, again, if he gets peeled off by your team, is hard for him to get in there to stun someone. Someone like RekSai has a AoE Knockup and Jax has an AoE stun, along with a gap closer making their job easy to get in there in team fights compared to Udyr.

Yes, his tanky because his a tank. Why is Dr. Mundo tanky? Why is Braum tanky? Why is Rammus tanky? because they were designed to be tanky. While on this, its debatable that Zilean Hecarim Rammus are much faster than Udyr.

Udyr's only AP damage skill is his R and it's ratio isn't the best.

Another note, have you ever tried chasing a le blanc as Udyr before? You can't because she has way more burst mobility than anyone (maybe not Kassadin). People who can easily kite and kill Udyr are people like Ahri, Darius, Jax, Illaoi, Fizz, Renekton, etc. If you want some proof, here is Trick2g vs a Fizz in ranked.

https://youtu.be/3GOaczRX7pE

I went to see your match history and I can't tell if you even play Udyr. Can I ask if you ever played him? Honestly, most of the people complaining about a champ have probably never played them, themselves. I'm going to assume this is a smurf.

Nekusen1 votes

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Udyr has no gap closer outside of summoner 4.

he is the fastest champion in the game and literally every ability gives him a speedboost.

again, if he gets peeled off by your team

which cant as he is the fastest champion in the game, even when slowed he can outrun most champs.

Why is Braum tanky? Why is Rammus tanky?

nono of them are so permafast nor deal the damage Udyr does, if they made Udyr deal as much damage as Braum, then that would be a good start.

While on this, its debatable that Zilean Hecarim Rammus are much faster than Udyr.

are they? remember that Udyr additionally deals mixed damage and is permanently faster.

Udyr's only AP damage skill is his R and it's ratio isn't the best.

it doesn't need a high ap ratio, just needs to deal magic damage.

Another note, have you ever tried chasing a le blanc as Udyr before? You can't because she has way more burst mobility than anyone

2 wrongs don't make a right

People who can easily kite and kill Udyr are people like Ahri, Darius, Jax, Illaoi, Fizz, Renekton, etc.

none of them can kite him as Udyr is faster than all of them, except maybe Ahri if she lands her charm and ults have you tried facing an Udyr as a Singed? even if he steps in item 3116 he still can catch you.. he can catch a freaking Singed while slowed

I went to see your match history and I can't tell if you even play Udyr.

If i played Udyr i would be asking for buffs :P But he is not my kind of champ

in some cases i do try the champ to see whats up with it (i constantly play about, give or take, 30 champions) Udyr is just not my style, i usually don't like to use champions/races/characters/whatever that are too strong, feels kinda like im cheating, also the type of champ Udyr is, his skills are kinda buffs and there isn't much skill can squeeze outta him.

MisterShameless2 votes

Could you try him in the jungle for about a day or two in PvP and let me know whether or not your opinion is still the same?

Nekusen1 votes

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Could you try him in the jungle for about a day or two in PvP and let me know whether or not your opinion is still the same?

ive seen him in enough games you don't need to be Messi to know he is op

resumed1 votes

not to mention he doesnt build any mana items but can still continuously spam his stances and get away almost 100% of the time if youre unable to 100-0 him or you dont have a pocket 45% cdr lissandra with you. not to mention the same thing makes him impossible to escape from if youre not playing leblanc with his aa stuns

i get that hes not that great right now but holy fuck

Nekusen1 votes

he is just a tank that deals tons of **MIXED ** damage and runs faster than sonic on crack.

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