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TimX24968B1 votes

don't you dare touch his R. there aren't very many executes still in the game.

Big Lincoln1 votes

doesn't need to not be an execute but it could stand to be more interesting

as long as it keeps the orbital strike, of course

SquashCannon3 votes

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don't you dare touch his R. there aren't very many executes still in the game.

Barring being the villain, garen's ultimate is one of the shittiest executes this game has ever seen.

It's magic damage on a character who has NO INCENTIVE to build magic damage, and it cannot directly scale in any way on its own.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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Barring being the villain, garen's ultimate is one of the shittiest executes this game has ever seen.

It's magic damage on a character who has NO INCENTIVE to build magic damage, and it cannot directly scale in any way on its own.

well. one option would be to lower its base damage to 100/200/300 and just make it true damage 100% of the time.

right now its at 175/350/525 magic damage as base.

the % missing health scaling would remain the same.

if id want to give it another buff, id increase its range to 600.

if theyre removing or reworking the villan passive to something else at some point. just making tweaks to the passive to make it overall more useful would be fine by me tbh.

Ralanr1 votes

Eh...I feel that it would need some counterplay before you gave it heavy buffs like that.

At least Darius is going to try and get five stacks before ulting you.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

see, that would actually be a really good buff to make the villainy passive more useful in general.

what if the range of his ultimate just doubled to 800 against the villain?

right now hes in a decent spot, and i wouldnt touch him a lot, other than buffs that specifically increase his skill ceiling and effectiveness at higher ratings. but i dont know what theyve planned with him.

Big Lincoln1 votes

wouldn't be too bad an idea

i was gonna make my own post on it but you and i are really the only people on boards who give a shit about Garen. i'd prefer it if his villain mechanic was something Garen could 'achieve,' so that it can actually feel good to use. the way it is now doesn't interest me in the slightest but i can get royally screwed if i get a bad villain before a fight

if it were something that could be similar to Darius's passive where if he stacks on you for long enough, he marks you and then becomes much harder to fight and run away from for a while, it'd be really good.

also like hash' passive suggestion a lot, where the cooldown stacks up to 9/4 from taking repeated hits and him being guaranteed a few seconds of healing every time the passive activates

Critmaster Garen1 votes

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wouldn't be too bad an idea

i was gonna make my own post on it but you and i are really the only people on boards who give a shit about Garen. i'd prefer it if his villain mechanic was something Garen could 'achieve,' so that it can actually feel good to use. the way it is now doesn't interest me in the slightest but i can get royally screwed if i get a bad villain before a fight

if it were something that could be similar to Darius's passive where if he stacks on you for long enough, he marks you and then becomes much harder to fight and run away from for a while, it'd be really good.

also like hash' passive suggestion a lot, where the cooldown stacks up to 9/4 from taking repeated hits and him being guaranteed a few seconds of healing every time the passive activates

the suggestion for his passive was really good, yes.

especially since it makes a clear distinction between melee/ranged champions if he gets 1 second cooldown for getting hit by a ranged champion/ability and 2 seconds for a melee hit.

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