in over 1500 aram games... today i saw the 5th s- ever.

Arammus··30 votes·2,474 views

i really dont understand why grades are always "ranked/normal" grades. no matter what mode you play, the grade system focuses on the average ranked. i mean come on. i counted them. i saw 5 players getting an s- AND NOT A SINGLE ONE GETTING A BETTER GRADE in over 1500 aram games.

really? riot pls

the system counts cs in WAY TOO MUCH and it really shouldnt do that in aram.

37 Comments

revliledpembroke16 votes

Yeah, it's really killer if you're someone like Olaf and you need to CS to get that S rank, but you've got Anivia Brand Heimerdinger Jayce Karma MasterYi Veigar Viktor Xerath or Ziggs on your team. Looks like you won't ever be getting any CS, so you better have a KDA of 100000000000000000000000000000000/2/1000000000000000000000000000000 to try and counteract your low CS numbers (and it still gives you an A+).

Honestly, CS should not be brought into account in ARAM. It's the least important aspect (overall) in a game mode where CS-ing is an afterthought.

Bob the Toastr9 votes

Agreed. In summoner's rift there's 3 lanes worth of farm and a jungle but in ARAM all 5 people have to share a single lane of farm so there's no way anyone could have a good cs score unless the rest of their team takes none of it.

LugiaPaladin10 votes

While I agree that getting S's in ARAM is needlessly hard, getting anything higher than an S- is pointless, as an S- will net you a chest and the only other thing that would be effected by getting a higher rank is getting slightly more champion mastery, since you can't even get mastery tokens in this mode.

ZenaSpiritdragon6 votes

Yeah it's painful trying to get a decent rank in ARAM. I actually kinda of wasn't sure it was possible for a while until I got one last week, don't even remember what champ it was on either.

Ahri Baka5 votes

Well , I played 200 aram games and I myself got S+ 3 times S 5 times S- 10+ times A lot of people in my matches got S+ too , but mostly S , you just shouldn't die much in aram and get as much as kills as possible and some good farm ,even if you need to die , if you have a score like 15/0/20 and end the match , here you got S+

Arammus7 votes

if i end an aram 15/0 i kinda did something wrong STILL! maybe our comp was way better but you should shop. and trying to farm in a mode where everyone randomly hits minions isnt easy either

Bijeesny4 votes

Complaining over irrelevant stuff in an irrelevan game mode lel

Master Noct2 votes

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Complaining over irrelevant stuff in an irrelevan game mode lel

And today, no point has been made.

Bijeesny1 votes

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And today, no point has been made.

My point is that OP is complaining about grade system which wasn't designed for ARAM. If he wants to get higher grade, he should play normal game. Your CS score is important when you want to get an S/S+ which you won't be able to get because you're fighting with 4 other teammates for CS. Accept it.

Master Noct1 votes

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My point is that OP is complaining about grade system which wasn't designed for ARAM. If he wants to get higher grade, he should play normal game. Your CS score is important when you want to get an S/S+ which you won't be able to get because you're fighting with 4 other teammates for CS. Accept it.

The way you worded your first response is what made me say that. Now that you present ideas as to why, then I can agree with you.

Mysticman894 votes

Grades are mode specific, so requirements to get an S in aram on a particular champ are different than the requirements to get an S on the same champ in any given role on SR. A side effect of that tends to be cs scores are expected to be quite low for most champs, especially compared to their SR counterparts.

The tricksy thing is since grades compare you to everyone on the same champ in that mode, the best performances end up being the ones where someone just happened to get a team comp that really synergises with the champion and/or the enemy comp doesn't offer much to counter them, so more typical team comp match ups don't lend themselves to S ranks.

That said, I don't find it's nearly as hard as you're making it out to be. I pretty reliably use aram as my method of getting my weekly S chests, as well as often using it as my win of the day method. Just looking at my recent match history in the client, I have 2 ARAM S ranks in my past 20 games (one S- and one S+), so either I'm consistently exceptionally lucky, or they're not as unreasonable as you make out.

KSul1992 votes

As a support main who frequently plays ARAM my main issue is that the comparisons are unfair in certain situations. When you play a support champ as a support, you can't hope to compete with someone who builds them like a carry. If i play support Janna with item 3190 item 3107 item 3504 i compete with others who build full ap and spam tornado. They will have higher cs numbers, kills, damage, etc. than me, because I choose to play a champion in a way that is best for the team. SR takes care of this by classifying Brand mid and Brand support differently, so the lack of damage/cs/kills is accounted for. ARAM does not, so ad Soraka gets the "s-" while support soraka does not.

stopmakingmemad2 votes

Aram is fuckingg dumb why do you care lol

Arammus9 votes

mainly because i dont want aram (and 3v3) end like dominion. basically some random riot dude randomly saying "yea it takes too much ressources and isnt as fame as ranked... remove it"

stopmakingmemad2 votes

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Arammus6 votes

im not an aram main. i just like to play it

DJOKER5 votes

This season made me an aram main :D

Lil Homie busta1 votes

Not as dumb as your post.

DJOKER2 votes

Aram is the only Mode i play this Season(The Worst Season), But Riot doesnt care.

Jaspers2 votes

I think the last S- in aram I got was with Udyr, full armour tank vs full ad team.... my farm was low but my kills high... I stole a lot of kills. :P

Infernape2 votes

I got an S on Jhin the other day. I just had a front line protecting me while I oneshot everything with less than 3k HP

Pale Pirate2 votes

The annoying thing is that the fix to that seems so easy; just lower or remove the weight CS has in the grade formula. In case you guys haven't noticed in your ARAMs, that's the main factor in getting an S class grade.

VexingRaven2 votes

I've gotten my first and only S on several champs in ARAM.

brônco2 votes

did you know that aram is a casual game mode

Venomar2 votes

Let's just have 3 waves of minions spawn at a time with random raptors and Krugs jumping up from under the bridge and seiging down the lane like in doombots, that's my solution. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

Scuffleboard1 votes

I've gotten a scattering of S's in around 180 ARAM games on two accounts. Soraka, Lucian, Ashe, Xayah... Mostly ADCs

Nea1041 votes

A totally not-broken mode. :D

StpTlkinAnBndOvr1 votes

Buy alistar and get s+ every game from snowball + cc score.

Professor Ward1 votes

i play arams and end the season with chests on basically every champion

got an s on galio and fiddlesticks today

BestPudgeNA1 votes

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Bro i used to play ARAM all the time and S ranks aren't uncommon the key to getting them in ARAM is to just not die.

Ramza Paradise2 votes

so un-true, you need to have a good score AND cs well.

I've consistently gone stupid scores of like 20-2 + assists and get an A

Only time you get an S is if you also last hit

Koerty1 votes

I feel like getting a S as ADC is doable, but getting a S as mage is nearly impossible, simply because as a mage you never have enough mana/cdr to both use your spells to poke the ennemy team and kill the minions, you either end up focusing on one or the other, while adcs can do both.

For tanks you just need to know when to go in, if you end up with 3 or 4 deaths while still being here in fights then good job you got your free S rank. For example I got a S (not S-) on garen just by using the snowball on an ennemy who gone too far, do one combo then run away, regen health and repeat.

ƒrostγ1 votes

I haven't counted it myself, but last year I got most of my chests from aram. ( 25 + )

big boi edri1 votes

This seems exaggerated, I've gotten quite a few S ranks in ARAM. A lot of them I ended the game with 40 or so CS. You just have to have good KP and KDA.

Jeanne fan club1 votes

Its not just cs that is counted. am almost 90% sure that the rating is determined on a (k/a/cs/kp/ward score) over (deaths and time) system. If you only die 0-1 times per game you will almost always get an S, the only exception being that if the game lasts too long of a time and you aren't getting kp or cs, then your rating will drop.

Ralik0981 votes

Yeah the rankings really need to be readjusted in aram.

revliledpembroke1 votes

On a completely different note, I just got an S on Mundo in ARAM.

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