i think i just had one of the most toxic teammates ever

Arammus··53 votes·15,901 views

so the game starts and our tryndamere jungle says "gl hf" "team no flame or pingspam pls or i'll have to mute you" 5min later he said "shen you should buy MR vs teemo not armor and play safe" thats all tryn said the entire game.

so top was feeding hard, shen ended the game with 0/13, he had 79 farm in an almost 1hour long game and his first MR item completed at 48min. he didnt say a single word tho. so enemy teemo top was fed

enemy twitch jungle got rekt by tryn

the enemy diana in mid was also fed cause tf wasnt doing so well

and i as ashe won bot pretty hard with morg vs jhin lux.

so we had an overfed tryn who ended the game with 9k gold left (he pinged shortly before it ended) he did 2 barons solo and got 3 quadras in 1v5 scenarios.

so... because tryn wasnt constantly ganking top and mid (and forwhatever reason my sup morg also asked for ganks all the time) morg and tf decided to team up and flame tryn. it started at 13min and lasted till the end at 58min. tf and morg kept flameing tryn saying stuff like "you fucking nawb youre reported, i wont carry you never carry a noob you dont deserve the win" LITERALLY STUFF LIKE THIS THE ENTIRE GAME and i told them to shut up and i spent half the game chatting to tryn saying dont listen to them man, youre doing so good come with me we can easily win this.

tryn was literally carrying the game solo the entire time. because morg tf AND EVEN SHEN always ran away when tryn went into a fight. they left him to die. so i couldnt go with tryn because as ashe i need some sort of protection and well diana could just jump me while tryn is in his ult... yet he kept getting 3-4 kills every fight, took 6 towers and 2 inhibs all alone (we took 7 towers total and 2 inhibs total, so again its all thanks to tryn)

and they kept saying they wont carry this tryn, open mid, ff dont waste time this tryn is so fucking noob and doesnt deserve it.

but at around 55min tryn just went into the jungle and stayed there. he didnt help anymore, not at all. like i said the game ended at 58min so yeah, without tryn it was over in less than 3min. and ofc in post game chat morg and tf spammed "report this fucking tryn, cant carry this noob 4v6 he doesnt deserve it, pls ban this asshole"

i literally never saw ppl that lost their lane/were feeding gang up ON THE ONE PERSON THAT CARRIES. and i fucking begged them to stop, i talked nice to tryn i tried everything. but eventually tryn had enough i guess.

these ppl shouldnt get a CR or a 14day ban. they should get a permaban right away. i've never seen something like this in the 6 years of my time in LoL. tryns endscore was 24/3/6 with 462 farm. tf for example was 5/15/19 with 137 cs.

im just at a loss of words. never seen anything like this.

if i was that tryn i'd literally go afk. dont give a fuck, if half my team are such toxic twats, doing nothing but feeding the enemys and flameing our only hope, i'd afk. but this tryn kept playing until the end where i guess it was just too much for him.

i know this is the na boards and the game happened on euw, but if by any chance you see this tryn, in my eyes you are one of the most sportsmanlike players i ever saw. 99% of ppl i have in games would have snapped way before the 20min mark and just start to flame/troll/int. im glad i could honor you and i hope tf and morg get a lifeban from this game (ik they wont, but they should). i salute you tryn!

79 Comments

Snowman Arc26 votes

It's really frustrating when you tryhard and play as well as you can and carry essentially dead corpses, only for them to come back and tell you you're shit and trash, for basically giving them free elo they don't deserve. Agreed, permaban is exactly what these players need.

Arammus3 votes

i tried my best to talk nice to the tryn and chear him up, but i guess almost 50min of harassement from 2 total noobs was too much for the poor guy.

Tuition Fee2 votes

As a player who just got flamed to oblivion by my Kai'Sa for inting and AFKing (1/5/19, didn't move from spawn until 1:01) this really warmed my heart. Garen wasn't doing too hot either, and got flamed by Ekko, but his duo and I shut him up. Seriously, standing up for someone is always a good thing. Thanks for being the positive player that you are.

Arammus1 votes

<3

Tomoe Gozen1 votes

{quoted}

i tried my best to talk nice to the tryn and chear him up, but i guess almost 50min of harassement from 2 total noobs was too much for the poor guy.

So, mute chat when you're getting harassed? Especially when two/three people who were losing their lanes start to badmouth someone who's doing good and actually carrying the game.

The Leper COn1 votes

{quoted}

i tried my best to talk nice to the tryn and chear him up, but i guess almost 50min of harassement from 2 total noobs was too much for the poor guy.

Arammus = Trynd?

Baka Red1 votes

Arammus was the Ashe of that match.

SangreDeNoche3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Snowman Arc,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=nLTPmjqf,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-06-05T16:19:55.018+0000)

It's really frustrating when you tryhard and play as well as you can and carry essentially dead corpses, only for them to come back and tell you you're shit and trash, for basically giving them free elo they don't deserve. Agreed, permaban is exactly what these players need.

That was what wrenched my will to play out of me my first year of playing. I was usually playing split push champs because I wanted to learn to carry solo and hammer out my own mistakes. I could literally take every objective on the map solo (including barons and dragons) and people would still ask for 9x reports because I "did nothing all game." Even if you mute them in game, you always have to see that at the postgame lobby and it's just the worst.

Suckdeezbeez1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Snowman Arc,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=nLTPmjqf,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-06-05T16:19:55.018+0000)

It's really frustrating when you tryhard and play as well as you can and carry essentially dead corpses, only for them to come back and tell you you're shit and trash, for basically giving them free elo they don't deserve. Agreed, permaban is exactly what these players need.

Theres no such thing as a permaban. Ive been "permabanned" 15 times, Im still playing.

LifeIsBasketball10 votes

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Maisanai1 votes

how are people supposed to learn to communicate effectively if they don't have the ability to do it? you can't win games without some form of communication, and limiting that to pings seems a bit extreme.

LifeIsBasketball5 votes

No it is not. you got

Warded ping MIA ping Omw ping Back off ping You can ping items and champions ( anyone with double digit IQ can understand what it means )

Back in our days with only had the blue sound ping and we had to type SS/MIA in chat when someone went missing. You got everything on a silver platter and you are still abysmally bad at the game ( i mean the community not targeting you ) we had nothing. That's why vet's have no respect for season 5 onward players.

Maisanai2 votes

I was there, came in around season 3 I think. I understand that you have different pings that cover most everything that you need to convey, but sometimes it's easier to get someone to do something when you can actually ask/tell them. I suppose I tend to try and actually help and explain to people who may not be good or understand why I'm making a call, which is why I think that chat is still important to have in low elo.

Anomandarist1 votes

(Old man voice) Back in my day we had one ping. If we wanted to communicate a mia we would ping 3 times on the predicted path, multiple pings in lane if we didn't know the path. the double ping to warn an ally to back off. and dodge was a buildable stat that made jax all but unkillable, and the map looked like it was colored in by a child, and we liked it too!

HalcyonDweller9 votes

That's a huge bummer, props to you and the Trynd player for having the tenacity to withstand the dumpster fire for so long.

I think that you should submit a support ticket, it wouldn't hurt to ask Riot to manually review the game, and if a human see's what happened during their manual review of it then they are more likely to try and make sure that those scumbags lose their accounts.

NA Omega1 votes

I guess.. congrats on wasting your time.. having to endure that only to get the L anyway.. better off ff'ing and going next.

HalcyonDweller1 votes

Can't exactly do that when two people on the team are conspiring to bully the Trynd. They probably voted no to any surrender vote.

Arammus3 votes

actually we didnt have many surrender votes. i think 4 or so. i myself voted no because like i said the tryn was so fed he was able to do barons solo and get several double/triple kills all by himself.

3TWarrior1 votes

I think the votes are only allowed every 5 mins but i'm not sure

Nemis1s2 votes

{quoted}

That's a huge bummer, props to you and the Trynd player for having the tenacity to withstand the dumpster fire for so long.

I think that you should submit a support ticket, it wouldn't hurt to ask Riot to manually review the game, and if a human see's what happened during their manual review of it then they are more likely to try and make sure that those scumbags lose their accounts.

This is exactly what I was going to say. Upvote so OP does this, those guys don't deserve to be playing with that mindset

WubbaLubbaDubDab4 votes

what i hate the most are ungreatful players especially as a jg main its so frequent,u camp the shit out of them literally save their lane cuz without u they'd be 0/10 and then keep calling u trash and that they carry. [sg-shisa]

Serika Zero2 votes

This is why, I trully, highly recommend. #fullmute all

more exactly, in game chat, press enter and type: /fullmute all it mutes pings, it mutes everything.

that's the only way to play this game. As a 1 human + 4 relatively intelligent AIs vs 5 relatively intelligent AIs if you want any semblance of enjoyment.

and fucking disable all chat

abca982 votes

You should try to send him a friend invitation and tell him this :P

Arammus2 votes

i did but he didnt accept (yet).

Troll for Trump2 votes

Because that tryn is a douchebag jglers.

Sounds like he basically never ganked, even the lane that REALLY needs it to even do anything (shen).

A large part of that is because it's trynd.

Yes, of course they don't want to help a jgler who never helps the rest of the team.

You're thinking about it from Tryn's perspective, but not Shen, Morg, or TF. Those 3 teammates suffered for ~20 min just for Trynda to AFK farm. Not very fun.

I want you to pick shen into teemo. I want you to try living through that without any jgl assistance from your team while the enemy jgler (occasionally, but should be rarely) ganks you.

Cunky12 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ðownright Darius,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=nLTPmjqf,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-06-05T17:47:27.088+0000)

Because that tryn is a douchebag jglers.

Sounds like he basically never ganked, even the lane that REALLY needs it to even do anything (shen).

A large part of that is because it's trynd.

Yes, of course they don't want to help a jgler who never helps the rest of the team.

You're thinking about it from Tryn's perspective, but not Shen, Morg, or TF. Those 3 teammates suffered for ~20 min just for Trynda to AFK farm. Not very fun.

I want you to pick shen into teemo. I want you to try living through that without any jgl assistance from your team while the enemy jgler (occasionally, but should be rarely) ganks you.

It literally says in the post

and i as ashe won bot pretty hard with morg vs jhin lux.

The Morg didnt need any help Also, it really doesn't seem like you play jungle at all You practically cannot gank losing lanes or they'll just 2v1, let alone the enemy top laner being Teemo. He'll just blind Trynd and w away Also Diana would just 2v1 them. The best thing for Trynd to do was try to solocarry. There was nothing that he could've done. The dude was trying his damn hardest.

Arammus7 votes

not just this, like i said in the post, shen build sunfire first vs teemo and then hydra and finished his first MR item at around 45 min

TheRossJanitor3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ðownright Darius,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=nLTPmjqf,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-06-05T17:47:27.088+0000)

Because that tryn is a douchebag jglers.

Sounds like he basically never ganked, even the lane that REALLY needs it to even do anything (shen).

A large part of that is because it's trynd.

Yes, of course they don't want to help a jgler who never helps the rest of the team.

You're thinking about it from Tryn's perspective, but not Shen, Morg, or TF. Those 3 teammates suffered for ~20 min just for Trynda to AFK farm. Not very fun.

I want you to pick shen into teemo. I want you to try living through that without any jgl assistance from your team while the enemy jgler (occasionally, but should be rarely) ganks you.

Tryn is a full autoattack champion, Teemo counters him and Shen. Ganking a Teemo with two auto based champions is literal suicide, especially if Teemo goes invisible, because you can't autoattack him at ALL. I really hope you're trolling, friend. Especially since the Shen refused to build MR against Teemo until 10 minutes before the game ended. Also, if you were smart, you would never pick Shen into Teemo in the first place.

Your entire post is laughable, friend. Tryndamere literally carried this game 1v5.

Troll for Trump1 votes

Tryn is a full autoattack champion, Teemo counters him and Shen. Ganking a Teemo with two auto based champions is literal suicide, especially if Teemo goes invisible, because you can't autoattack him at ALL.

He counters each of them individually in lane, not when you gank. He's easily gankable pre-6. Ganking teemo with anyone is basically instant death for teemo if he's out of position. Teemo's not as good as you think he is.

And if he goes invisible, I'm sorry, you just let him stand still way too long. On top of that Shen can just taunt him.

Also, if you were smart, you would never pick Shen into Teemo in the first place.

So you somehow know shen picked first? And that this isn't blind pick?

This is top lane. The jgler can easily win lane for anyone.

I'm sorry, you have no idea what you're talking about.

TheRossJanitor2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ðownright Darius,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=nLTPmjqf,comment-id=000600010000,timestamp=2018-06-06T02:19:30.908+0000)

He counters each of them individually in lane, not when you gank. He's easily gankable pre-6. Ganking teemo with anyone is basically instant death for teemo if he's out of position. Teemo's not as good as you think he is.

And if he goes invisible, I'm sorry, you just let him stand still way too long. On top of that Shen can just taunt him.

So you somehow know shen picked first? And that this isn't blind pick?

This is top lane. The jgler can easily win lane for anyone.

I'm sorry, you have no idea what you're talking about.

I based my reply on the fact that the comment literally said, "I want you to pick Shen into Teemo." Please, learn how to read context cues. And since we're talking about assumptions, you think you know that Teemo was out of position pre-6? I'm sorry friend, but you're the one with no idea about what you're talking about. You seem to focus on the invisibility part of my reply, which wasn't even the main focus. Teemo's Q completely disables Tryndamere as a junglers and his W gives him a free speed boost back to turret. I'm sorry, but if you think a Shen with 79 cs at 50+ minutes who builds armor against a Teemo and doesn't even have the game knowledge to play safe until Tryndamere could've abused Teemo's "overextension" as you assumed, knows how to properly taunt an invisible Teemo in bush, you have too much faith in other people.

Troll for Trump1 votes

I based my reply on the fact that the comment literally said, "I want you to pick Shen into Teemo." Please, learn how to read context cues.

And I replied based on that?

And since we're talking about assumptions, you think you know that Teemo was out of position pre-6? Which is more likely. Teemo being out of position at any point before lvl 6 or your assumption? Pretty obvious.

I'm sorry friend, but you're the one with no idea about what you're talking about. You seem to focus on the invisibility part of my reply, which wasn't even the main focus.

You mentioned invisibility as a specific countermeasure to ganks. I specifically replied as to how unreliable Teemo's stealth is. The entire first paragraph states that Teemo is susceptible to ganks just as every other top laner is. There is absolutely no reason to not gank.

Teemo's Q completely disables Tryndamere as a junglers

I already addressed that.

his W gives him a free speed boost back to turret. Taunt. I thought it was obvious, but I guess not. If Teemo's running away, Trynd just Ws. And teemo has to run away because that's his only means to escape from a gank.

. I'm sorry, but if you think a Shen with 79 cs at 50+ minutes who builds armor against a Teemo and doesn't even have the game knowledge to play safe until Tryndamere could've abused Teemo's "overextension" as you assumed, knows how to properly taunt an invisible Teemo in bush, you have too much faith in other people.

So Trynd can predict the future? Listen. The Trynd didn't gank for anyone. That's suspicious. If shen's too unreliable, any of the other lanes asking for ganks would be suitable options. That's, of course, assuming he magically knows shen is incompetent and not because he's facing a matchup that's basically a death timer in lane.

Do you know why shen has 79 cs? Because it's Teemo and he got no ganks. You're blatantly contradicting yourself. Shen has no way to get cs without autoattacking. If he plays safe, he'll have no cs. Low cs would be expected, and not at all abnormal. If he tries to get cs or--god forbid-- try to actually have fun during laning phase then he eats a teemo poke/burst combo on top of all the random autoattacks.

How exactly would you, as shen go about this?

I would like to look at the user's match stats to try and confirm my assertions, but it looks like the OP is posting on a smurf. Either that, or hey's lying.

Giki1 votes

So you mean to say that none of the junglers should ganks a loosing lane ? I'm pretty much with Downright Darius on this one. Like he said gank the lane before its fed. As per your dumb logic should no one gank a lane if its a loosing matchup ? Why couldn't tryn gank shen at 3 mins ? or when shen died 2 or 3 times ? You know if shen lands his taunt and tryn ganks hes dead right ?

Not saying here that tryn played bad but not ganking and afk farming, trying to pretend to carry isn't good either. This is a team game. The flame wasn't justified but neither were tryn's actions. Every lane can be ganked if you use your brain properly.

He could have ganked mid too with TF gold card into Diana pre 6. After 6 its harder but possible. With tryn there is a possible dive potential too. So come on man all of you guys on this thread use your brain and stop typing Bs without looking at the situation.

2 conclusions are that

1] flame is not good nor justified even when they didn't get any ganks at all 2] Tryn did play a major part in their loss

dboy2251 votes

yeah that seems to be the mindset of most jungle mains. they never gank a lane that is in real need of help to catch back up. because it is to much of a challenge for them. instead its easier to simply go to a lane that is already winning and try to ks here and there. its pretty sad. but then if you say that to a jungle main they get all pissy and defensive. wonder why..... almost every game i have ever played the jungle is like that. in my 3 years of playing i have only seen maybe five games where a jungler actually listen's to assist pings and comes as soon as you ping. that is a real jungler. one willing to go in to try to catch the lane up. not some jackass who runs around, ignores all assist pings, and simply tries to find out the best opportunity to ks. which is what the majority of so called jungle mains tend to do.

Maisanai1 votes

You have to understand that jungling is also about being in the right place at the right time. not every time that someone pings the jungler is it the right time for them to gank, and if it is they may have gone to the wrong side of the map and won't make it in time. That last part is definitely the jungler's fault, but jungle is probably the hardest role in the game to pull off. everyone else is expecting your help from lvl 3, and sometimes an early invade or a botched gank can throw off your whole game. not saying that junglers can't catch up if they get behind, or that they shouldn't help lanes that are down. There's just a bit more that goes into stuff like this. It can also be risky to gank a lane that is fed, because if you end up dying you're only feeding them more. The safer play is to snowball one of your other lanes and hope the lane that is behind will play safe.

dboy2252 votes

mmmm. you could not have explained that any better. i get how you said they should not contribute to feeding if the lane is feeding or really behind. i understand that. but really its as simple as communicating back. especially for a jungle. they are not heavy targets like everyone else is so there is no reason why they can not communicate back in some way or another. when you do that it sends the signal that you don't give a rats ass and you are only doing just what i explained. trying to ks lanes that are already winning. and yes i know jungling is a pain in the ass which is why i have not practiced it that much. but i always communicate with the team. even if its simply by signaling danger when they ping for assist to let them know to back down and that im not going in. it lets them know i am not in a good position to help them. but most jungle's wont even do that much and there is zero excuse for lack of communication with your team in a team based game.

dboy2252 votes

and i do agree with everything you are saying. all im saying is there is no good reasoning for completely ignoring the pings without giving some kind of communication back.

in this scenario two things can happen. if a jungle is next to your lane and you ping for assistance and they give you no kind of information back. to the person who pinged it could mean its safe to go in and he has my back or it can lead to you going in only assuming he has your back just to leave you for dead and put you even further behind. its very shitty on the jungles part. but because he said nothing back all you could do was assume.

dboy2252 votes

the exception is if they are fighting with an enemy, but as i was saying most of the time they are simply farming and have plenty of time to relay some kind of info back to a teammate

Maisanai1 votes

I understand your points, they are fair and valid, communication is usually the key to winning in my experience. That's regardless of role. But, I will say that with the current jungle meta junglers can be heavily targeted, depending on who you're playing. The game also seems pretty much set up to keep you behind if you fall behind right now, which is really just depressing when all you want to do is help out the team lol

Summonah123693 votes

{quoted}

yeah that seems to be the mindset of most jungle mains. they never gank a lane that is in real need of help to catch back up. because it is to much of a challenge for them. instead its easier to simply go to a lane that is already winning and try to ks here and there. its pretty sad. but then if you say that to a jungle main they get all pissy and defensive. wonder why..... almost every game i have ever played the jungle is like that. in my 3 years of playing i have only seen maybe five games where a jungler actually listen's to assist pings and comes as soon as you ping. that is a real jungler. one willing to go in to try to catch the lane up. not some jackass who runs around, ignores all assist pings, and simply tries to find out the best opportunity to ks. which is what the majority of so called jungle mains tend to do.

If you don't main jungle, then you might not see that it isn't very easy to gank a fed enemy.

Autrah Fang1 votes

{quoted}

especially if Teemo goes invisible, because you can't autoattack him at ALL.

to be fair, if they saw where he went invisible, Shen could just taunt him to cancel the invisibility. but he could miss of course, considering Teemo would most likely be in a bush and dodged it. other than that i agree :P

Gramps691 votes

Shen into teemo is a losing lane anyways, one or two ganks aren't going to change that. If by some miracle the shen gets a 3-4 kill lead and decent (20+) CS lead, then yes, it could be a winning lane. Same with TF and Diana, TF doesn't win a lot of lanes, he goes to other lanes to help them win. If he's repeatedly dying to Diana in lane he should change his strategy and do what TF is made to do: Push lane and ult to other lanes.

Troll for Trump1 votes

Shen into teemo is a losing lane anyways, one or two ganks aren't going to change that.

It does. You might think it won't, but, it definitely will.

  • Gives you opportunity to cs while teemo backs off due to jgl presence or being dead from a gank
  • Gives opportunity for shen to better zone off Teemo due to potential jgl presence (not so much post 6) and being able to better punish mistakes
  • Gives shen better scaling into the game for him to ult across the map and help other lanes; same reason why you would gank Talon even if he's in a bad matchup, because he can heavily influence other lanes
  • Again, Shen might be able to actually 1v1 Teemo because he can use the gold to get items
  • Really helps against tilting

With all the roaming champs you want to gank them more because you want to get them ahead and do the ganking for you. If the roaming champs are behind, they won't be able to snowball other lanes. They'll just pop in and feed more while their own lane gets obliterated and the enemy laner further snowballs. Roaming champs excel in laning phase because that is when they have the highest number of safe roam paths; it is essential that you get them ahead so they can push their lead to other lanes.

For TF, if he just blindly pushes, he risks himself to all-ins from the potentially ahead Diana as well as other laners/jgl.

TF would be behind. If he goes aggro and shoves the wave he's just opening himself up to a free kill from a champ like Diana. By not trying to help TF in any way, Trynd essentially prevents him from being able to do his job.

3TWarrior2 votes

you haven't met the people who think they're gods in human flesh for being able to run over bots in a premade

-shudders- the people I met delayed the bot match to almost an hour and kill-stole every opportunity they could get

Autrah Fang1 votes

{quoted}

you haven't met the people who think they're gods in human flesh for being able to run over bots in a premade

-shudders- the people I met delayed the bot match to almost an hour and kill-stole every opportunity they could get

i've seen this before, though they weren't a premade. they were just one person. literally picked mid ap blitz, and specifically saved abilities so that he could steal a kill from someone. never attacked a structure either, so they'd probably do the same thing you described if they were given the opportunity to have a premade.

another person i saw that did something similar was a Jayce in ARURF. literally never let anyone else have a kill. if he was anywhere nearby he'd walk over and E-Q at the last hit if he had to. when asked to stop kill stealing he said something along the lines of "no, i'm having to much fun". ruined the match for everyone else :/ then the enemy team flamed everyone else for getting carried by him. any one of us could've killed them (and almost had, multiple times, but Jayce still stole the kill for it) if we were given the chance to do so ...

Hyquiem2 votes

There’s the facts. People can not tolerate others being better then them, jealously is a goddess of league.

Sir Prepuzius2 votes

thanks for this thread

that's one of the reason why i don't mute ppl

if i were tryn and i would have muted them trash players, i would have won the game even for those garbage players that doesn't deserve it

better to not give a fck, lose the game and let those players sink down in elo hell.. i'm sure trynda will carry another game, with teammates that actually deserve to win

VeganScout1 votes

No way someone is gonna read all of that post.

You should summarize your grievances.

Arammus7 votes

i've read longer threads

Mcsquzzy1 votes

Did you remember to say "ok" at the end

Arammus1 votes

i tried to cosplay rammus in chat a bit. but this tends to make ppl mad so i stopped it :(

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