If you could revert one rework, who would it be and why?

Freeza with an I··4 votes·2,224 views

Personally, mine would probably be Aatrox, not because he's OP or anything like that: simply because I miss old Aatrox. New one is basically a bruiser assssin while the old one was attack speed based. I really miss having attack speed based champs, we have a few still but it just seems like Riot really doesn't like them as much as they like "BOOM YOU DEAD" champs.

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OneMustFall2 votes

Talon and Katarina . Both were fun and simplistic to play. Now their kits are gimmicky and not fun to play.

Freeza with an I1 votes

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Talon and Katarina . Both were fun and simplistic to play. Now their kits are gimmicky and not fun to play.

Yea, Talon was my main for the longest time but new Talon just feels really clunky to play as.

YG TheyWorshipMe2 votes

Urgot Irelia Akali Swain I would prefer them to be reverted.

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Urgot Irelia Akali Swain I would prefer them to be reverted.

Urgot I'm okay with as old Urgot was way too gimmicky to ever be good, Irelia is insane now but I guess she always was, Akali's just..Not really the same now and I hate how edgy they made her, and Swain uh..I don't really mind either way haha.

The thigh guy1 votes

Does ekko’s existence count as. Rework?

Freeza with an I1 votes

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Does ekko’s existence count as. Rework?

Is Ekko even that bad now? I remeber him being broken beyond belief but now he seems pretty OK.

The thigh guy1 votes

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Is Ekko even that bad now? I remeber him being broken beyond belief but now he seems pretty OK.

Tbh I just hate the champion lol. Even if he is horrible I hate playing against him. His ult is just so frustrating. No one else has a “rito I fucked up plz help” button. Too forgiving.

Jamaree1 votes

Those champions just don’t work unless they either can AS like five times in a second, or literally have ways to not die, sorry fam.

Probably old Soraka though, not because she was good before but mid lane Soraka was funny as shit .

Freeza with an I1 votes

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Those champions just don’t work unless they either can AS like five times in a second, or literally have ways to not die, sorry fam.

Probably old Soraka though, not because she was good before but mid lane Soraka was funny as shit .

Yea, I get that. I still miss them though. Devourer was so fun back in the day. And Soraka was nuts oh my god -110 MR or some shit wasn't it?

Jamaree1 votes

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Yea, I get that. I still miss them though. Devourer was so fun back in the day. And Soraka was nuts oh my god -110 MR or some shit wasn't it?

Fair enough and can’t remember, shit was dumb a f, not good, just dumb.

PimpStickNasus1 votes

Does Azir count? Not a full rework but if I could redo that I'd still be playing him

Freeza with an I1 votes

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Does Azir count? Not a full rework but if I could redo that I'd still be playing him

Yea, old Azir was busted but new Azir just feels rly clunky. Old one had combos the new one really doesn't.

PimpStickNasus1 votes

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Yea, old Azir was busted but new Azir just feels rly clunky. Old one had combos the new one really doesn't.

I'd honestly be fine with him not being meta and poor winrate consistently than have him feel like a melee champion compared to what he once was. Just want that shurima shuffle back

boricCentaur11 votes

If the mini reworks count then kindred if not yorick since I think his new kit is better in a lot of ways buts its not a summoners kit its a split pusher kit that has the option to summon things and right now we do not have a true summoner in league now after his rework.

ZerglingOne1 votes

Poppy

Making her a tank was a fundamental misunderstanding of her character. All the team saw was "stun and 2 durability skills. Gotta be a tank" when she was the only champion in the game that could force a 1v1.

Poppy was a melee assassin and her kit was not unrecoverable in its original form. Her auto attack animation needed some changes for the better, her ult needed a "must fight the target to get the benefit" and her passive could have been changed to damage exceeding 10% of max HP rather than current HP, but she was a coherent character despite what anyone would say.

Freeza with an I1 votes

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Poppy

Making her a tank was a fundamental misunderstanding of her character. All the team saw was "stun and 2 durability skills. Gotta be a tank" when she was the only champion in the game that could force a 1v1.

Poppy was a melee assassin and her kit was not unrecoverable in its original form. Her auto attack animation needed some changes for the better, her ult needed a "must fight the target to get the benefit" and her passive could have been changed to damage exceeding 10% of max HP rather than current HP, but she was a coherent character despite what anyone would say.

Yea, she's kinda like Sion there. Sion wasn't really a tank, he was a caster or a bruiser. They did that for characters they didn't know what to do with tbh.

ZerglingOne1 votes

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Yea, she's kinda like Sion there. Sion wasn't really a tank, he was a caster or a bruiser. They did that for characters they didn't know what to do with tbh.

Yeah. The biggest travesty with Sion was that in his transition to a tank, he lost 700 base health at 18 and for most of the game had slower HP gain. They eventually (like after 3 years) addressed those issues.

Sion isn't actually that far off from being his old self though! The HP gain should be his passive, and he should get flat damage reduction based on his total bonus HP, something like 1-2% of his bonus HP becomes flat damage reduction and then 2-10 HP based what he kills. Q can stay, but I'd rather it be a faster charge lower stun. If people can dodge Kayn W, then they can dodge a faster Sion Q.

His W is fine. His E is dumb and always has been, but people like it so whatever. His ult can be the same and have him drop his axe at the end and have the lifesteal and attack speed effect for some time.

You'd be able to end the effect if you need your other skills though.

rtbf2476264231 votes

gangplank, maokai, and galio. There was no reason needed for them to be reworked they were simply reworked because no one played them and that's a r%%%%%ed reason

Nik Nikerson2 votes

No, it's literally the perfect reason.

Also, not why Maokai was reworked.

Freeza with an I2 votes

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No, it's literally the perfect reason.

Also, not why Maokai was reworked.

Well, they could always do a visual update with some kit tweaks. A Full on rework isn't 100% necessary.

rtbf2476264231 votes

change for the sake of change is never good, if they were broken in some aspects then I could understand but changing something just because it's old despite it's ability to keep up with current things just fine is assbackwards

Freeza with an I1 votes

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gangplank, maokai, and galio. There was no reason needed for them to be reworked they were simply reworked because no one played them and that's a r%%%%%ed reason

Yeaaaa..Old Mao was fun but I could never figure out his ult at the time, GP was a blast to play and wasn't an edgelord. Galio was..Interesting.

Moody P1 votes

Sejuani, so that at least one tank in the entire game could be fun to Play

Inkling Commando1 votes

either revert the bounty change or bring back Ultimate Hat.

Bears Dont Care1 votes

Maokai

KVbqbFsC8e1 votes

Taric. Nobody plays him now anyway outside of degenerate cheese/funnel strats. He was very fun to play toplane before the rework when you could stunlock people with his combo.

Infernape1 votes

Shen. The spirit blade is a poorly thought out gimmick.

ZerglingOne1 votes

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Shen. The spirit blade is a poorly thought out gimmick.

I hate it so much.

FioraWillCarry1 votes

Kayle But I'd keep the new visuals. New Kayle is just utter garbage most of the game and will be even more so next patch with those ridiculous nerfs.

VoraciousX1 votes

It would be expected for me to say Katarina, but no, I actually prefer new Katarina. Her mobility is way more fun. Can I revert Malzahar back to the BEGINNING of his rework? If so then that. I don't want a full revert back to old Malz, just before he became what he is now, which is not fun for the Malzahar player despite never being bad(He's been toward the top end of mid lane for a long ass time). I'd like for them to revert him back to the beginning of his rework and then nerf some problematic areas WITHOUT ruining the cohesiveness of his kit. Maybe instead of slowing the minions down, lowering their damage, or lowering the AP scaling and increasing the AD scaling, so that you had to choose more out of what you wanted out of Malz. Or simply doing one thing, Something that doesn't make him busted WITHOUT taking all the fun out of his kit.

OR Diana. Yeah, actually I'd rather them revert Diana. I hate the attack speed bonus being tied to her abilities. It doesn't make for a good gameplay change imo because no matter what you're doing you're still gonna be stacking your passive third hit before going in anyways to pop your target once you go in, and the mana recovery wasn't needed. Malzahar really does need his W to not be crap anymore though. It's only use is as a shoving tool now and that's pretty boring.

NaughtyWord1 votes

Akali

I hate the rework. Played it once after the rework and hated it. Never touched her again. Garbage. At best she should have been "reworked" in the same way Morgana was; a mostly visual rework.

Freeza with an I1 votes

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Akali

I hate the rework. Played it once after the rework and hated it. Never touched her again. Garbage. At best she should have been "reworked" in the same way Morgana was; a mostly visual rework.

Yea, I wish they would've kept her as Akali instead of just this tattooed out edgelord.

IAmTheLego1 votes

Katarina

I miss ward jumping and rolling my face on the keyboard to get a penta.

Tin Obliterates1 votes

Zac His old ult was way more fun to use for me than the new one is, he was also ok in top lane before his rework because of his old Q. I pretty much stopped playing him at this point because he only works in the jungle now.

Freeza with an I2 votes

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Zac His old ult was way more fun to use for me than the new one is, he was also ok in top lane before his rework because of his old Q. I pretty much stopped playing him at this point because he only works in the jungle now.

I fully agree! I loved playing Zac Jungle, Top, and Support. Now I hate his mechanics and he just feels overall really unfun. It really sucks :/

Rebonack1 votes

Malzahar all the way back to when his Voidlings were his passive.

AD Malz and AP Malz played completely different from each other. It was a fun dynamic.

The new Malz is a watered down version of both with a free spell shield tacked on. Lame.

Zdiddy5131 votes

Shen Just give him old q back PLEASE. He was the only toplaner I ever mained but now he gets shat on by everyone.

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