At least zed has to push buttons,

Jaygo41·Feb 13, 2016·3 votes·677 views

just walks at you and kills you

11 Comments

Dominick DestineFeb 13, 20163 votes

At least XinZhao has counter-play.

Zed manaless, multiple escape mechanisms, high base stats, gg.

Mat7itanFeb 13, 20161 votes

item 3157 item 3140

Dominick DestineFeb 13, 20161 votes

item 3361

By the way; Neither of those 'counter' Zed, they merely partially defend against his ult.

Papa SlothyFeb 15, 20161 votes

you can easily counter Zed by choosing a tankier sustain based laner like malz or cho and simply denying farm and making sure he can't roam

Dominick DestineFeb 15, 20161 votes

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you can easily counter Zed by choosing a tankier sustain based laner like malz or cho and simply denying farm and making sure he can't roam

None of what you said even remotely makes sense.

You cannot deny Zed farm as you describe, he has one of the safest laning phases of any character in the game.... "tankier sustain based laner" , first example: Malzahar, lol. Cho Gath I can kind of see but that's not a counter, that's only surviving the lane and even then, Zed has an edge against Cho Gath since Cho Gath is VERY slow and predictable.... also gated by mana of which Zed can easily exploit.

Papa SlothyFeb 15, 20161 votes

Peeling with Cho' is very simple and his ability to silence can make Zed wary in lane

the whole point of Zed is snowballing so just try and push back his powerspikes as far as possible

(Late game Cho' is tankier and has enough damage to scare Zed)

Dominick DestineFeb 15, 20161 votes

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the whole point of Zed is snowballing

Umm no. Even without snowballing, Zed scales better than like 90% of the cast of characters, easily.

Couple this with very high snowball potential and incredibly safe laning.... or more importantly safe assassinations and you have a wildly overpowered character. There's a reason Zed is high priority pick/ban. http://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/zed

If it were any other champion, I'd guarantee that Riot would nerf them... but Riot has shown a strong preference towards overpowered , manaless characters (Ex: LeeSin Yasuo Zed )

Papa SlothyFeb 15, 20161 votes

I summarized my thoughts on Zed and it basically is this

I have played Zed since mid S4 and I can safely say that he is God tier specifically because he wasn't built for this amount of stacking

That's why he does ridiculous damage, Zed in S6 is like a moderate car that can be driven well by an above average player, but what happens when you replace all the parts with formula 1 parts. You get a literal beast that can easily be used by almost anyone

In all my Zed games I have had 1st or 2nd most damage and I am usually the one with the majority of the kills

The Fix would be for riot to realize that the youmuus changes (while welcome) are a little much, the best thing to do would be increase the price of the item by a significant amount, the item gives too many stats for something so cheap (comparatively) this would help to make youmuus useful but stay away from the massive powerspike it gives

Jaygo41Feb 13, 20162 votes

xin has counterplay? what am i to dodge, or outplay? it's a targeted dash, and if i try to scrap with him he's gonna beat my ass

xin either destroys you or he doesn't horrible champ design