Why does everyone want to surrender? What happened to the culture?
Okay. Title intended.
Every 1-2 days I see a new thread about 15 minute surrenders or even earlier surrenders. I KNOW WHY. But, I think it's worth making a counting thread to point this out:
- It's a major culture change to have most players feel Surrender (ignoring the flat out math that proves surrender is a worse option than playing a game out in any case less than 42 minutes) is an approved action and want more access to it. We need to figure out why this is happening.
2)** It's probably not good for the game in its current state, and either surrender needs to be taken out of the culture, OR the game's reward/LP systems need changed to accommodate it better**(Surrender almost guarantees a non-climbing atmosphere, so players who are not part of the surrender culture get dragged along for the ride)
That being said, we know EXACTLY why people want to surrender:
-Almost every Normals game is a matchup of 2 VERY high elo players versus 8 unsuspecting players of much lower talent level. Those 8 have accepted this norm and can generally conclude the outcome of a game as soon as the 2 high elo players reveal themselves. If they are on the other team, it's become natural for the 8 players just to cede the results and move on.
-Smurfs in low elo, as well as griefers in low elo, have achieved the result of getting this norm to cross over to ranked as well. Once a lead is presented, people give up because in their ~30 levels of Norms, they've already learned that a major leader is probably outside their skill level. Who can blame them, when in their ~ 180+ Norms games, about 70% of those games were controlled by a Zed/Katarina/Tristana smurf who went 25/0 in 20 minutes? They see a 6/0 in what's supposed to be an "equal skill" ranked game, they predict that 25/0 occurring there too.
I have not surrendered ONCE in over 9000+ games since Season 3. I have been surrendered ON. It feels disgusting every single time; We could come back, and in many cases I'm even still at a 6-7 KDA and ahead of most of the other team (even the so called "maybe" smurf). I do not like people losing my games on purpose..... just to move on.
We need to get this culture under control. Or it will eventually control the game entirely, and skill will no longer decide who ranks where.
after clear one should bring it back into viability. Was both a fast and effective clear.
were more valuable to this guys already slow jungle clear than a 
never actually made up for it cause he couldn't execute anybody.
so
fun
i'm ff'ing that game.
