What counters bruisers?

deadlychuck··2 votes·855 views

As an archetype of a champion design. Sure you have count champion designs, but a mage, marksman, assassin, and tank. They all have fairly well defined counters to what that do. Mages and Marksmen tend to lose to assassins, assassins lose to tanks, tanks loose to mages and marksmen. It's more or less the whole rock, paper, scissors aspect of the game people love to talk about but normally don't actually understand.

Bruisers are by design somewhere in the middle of the other three, although by doing so what counters a tank that's enough of an assassin that marksman and mages can't beat him? Or an assassin who does enough sustained damage that a tank can't absorb their damage output? How are you suppose to beat a champion who is designed in a way which has no counters, excluding another bruisers designed with a counter mixed archetype.

Something needs to be done in terms of items, stats, or even if it means completely reworking a good number of champions, to address these imbalances in the basic structure of the game's design.

So again i return to the initial question, what is the counter to the bruiser/fighter archetype?

9 Comments

skippersd3 votes

Jack of all trades, master of none. It means a bruiser tries to assassinate an adc/apc, tank out an assassin, and dps down a tank. The counter is that he is NOT what he's playing.

deadlychuck1 votes

So basically what you're saying is that there isn't one outside of champions select

skippersd1 votes

No, what i'm saying is: As an adc against a fed bruiser, get some defense like you would against a fed assassin, because he will play against you like an assassin would (istagib your squshy champ).

12tales1 votes

Vayne's pretty good at it.

Worgslarg1 votes

Kogmaw.

If he builds a botrk, they stand no chance.

deadlychuck1 votes

JarvanIV and his 1400 range of gap closing would like to disagree

redniwediS1 votes

Main thing that counters bruisers is mobility. Most bruisers need to stick to their target, so if you can keep them from doing so they will be rather ineffective and kitable.

deadlychuck2 votes

The only problem is that riot gives them tons of mobility or stick making it impossible to kit them unless your kit is completely over loaded with mobility.

Riven MonkeyKing Renekton LeeSin Vi JarvanIV

like that's what i always thought, and then they introduced this line of champions and suddenly they had more mobility than the ones who were suppose to be kiting.

redniwediS1 votes

Every group that you can put champions in has a few who don't really fit. Compared to how many bruisers there are in total I'd say 6 is low enough to not invalidate mobility as their counter. Besides, half of the ones you pointed out can get their whole kit shut down by a well timed knock back, stun, or root.

CC > Mobility, Mobility > Bruisers

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