Shyvana's passive giving bonus dragon rewards gives her kit a great niche and added complexity

PapaGreg21··4 votes·705 views

I really like this change and hope it goes through. I know some Shyvana mains are worried that it will make her too feast or famine depending on your dragon control for the game but I feel she has been a somewhat "Safe" champ over the years (even if things were going bad you could power farm and not fall too far behind) and this will raise her ceiling while also lowering her floor. Plus, it answers the question as to why somebody would pick Shyvana over other junglers by giving her a clear strategy of controlling that objective.

I think these changes (with the ultimate buffs) are going to be healthy buffs and put her back in a good spot without making her into the devourer monster from last season.

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Big Lincoln2 votes

artificial complexity.

these changes are going to make her cancerous when she snowballs. power that's tied to the map and not the champion has never worked well Skarner Mordekaiser. And Shyvana's getting an RNG passive.

If she was given a form of objective control this would be alright, but that's not what this is. This is just shackling her to something that's not in her control.

Erockandroll1 votes

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artificial complexity.

these changes are going to make her cancerous when she snowballs. power that's tied to the map and not the champion has never worked well Skarner Mordekaiser. And Shyvana's getting an RNG passive.

If she was given a form of objective control this would be alright, but that's not what this is. This is just shackling her to something that's not in her control.

This has been kinda Riot's policy as of late. Feast or famine mechanics are nearly impossible to balance exactly, but the are far healthier when those mechanics require teamwork. If you play to your teams strengths, you will win.

of coarse your examples are those who were poorly executed. Skarner's crystal spires probably went too far in that direction, where his teammate were like "I didn't sign up for this." And that's compounded by the fact that his spires only make him strong on 6 specific points on the map. As for Mord, Riot just kinda said they weren't ready to support alternative duo lanes yet.

Lastly, taking an objective doesn't happen by accident. No part about securing dragon in RNG. Unless your referring to the dragon spawn. But as far as I can see, nor part of her passive favors one particular drake or the other, it merely requires adaptation.

xBushx1 votes

This! I like the concept on paper. but really it gives her substantial power for literally no risk. Just free stats.

SexualizeOatmeal1 votes

Well, its no surprise that I hate these changes. I just dont really care for them. They look... Neat, but I think that her passive and ult changes are the only good thing for it... The rest well... This gif explains it fairly well. http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/954/604/a97.gif

G4LLOWSC4L1BR4TR1 votes

She's never really been a safe pick though. She's always been feast or famine, and how good she was is essentially determined by how often she stomped as opposed to losing horribly. Shyvana when she's ahead has been able to win 1v4 or 1v5 fights pretty eash, and Shyvana when she's behind has always been next to useless.

WoonStruck1 votes

It's a bad passive.

Map specific and essentially RNG. It's a win-more mechanic which is never acceptable. Same as Rengar.

Paroe1 votes

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It's a bad passive.

Map specific and essentially RNG. It's a win-more mechanic which is never acceptable. Same as Rengar.

Its not a bad passive because its nnot replacing anything o-o Combined with the standard bonus, the dragon bonus on top of it is very good. It would be really cool if shyvana could CHOOSE what dragon spawns, though. give her a specific niche in dragon control.

WoonStruck1 votes

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Its not a bad passive because its nnot replacing anything o-o Combined with the standard bonus, the dragon bonus on top of it is very good. It would be really cool if shyvana could CHOOSE what dragon spawns, though. give her a specific niche in dragon control.

Still map-specific and RNG. Still win-more. Still a bad passive.

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