It's almost that time of the year again.

Archenz··34 votes·3,525 views

Preseason boys!

What do you expect this year?

Something's I expect

  • Annual complete jungle revamp
  • New items
  • Reworks

78 Comments

Wicked Waffle27 votes

My hopes: More support itemization, mostly revolving around Sightstone being like the jungle items and ability to combine gold item + sightstone. More ADC itemization; no one wants BTs, PDs, and IEs in every single game. More unique items (Dead Man's) New Champions with New Mechanics Revamp of Poppy/Taric Return of Tribunal Removal of Promo Series Graves to have his cigar back

DemaciaClown20 votes

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Graves to have his cigar back

One can dream.

RottedApples37 votes

just give him a joke/taunt that says "close.. but no cigar."

DemaciaClown10 votes

Rito pls.

TacoTheKitten2 votes

Like he pulls out a lighter and lights it, but then stops halfway through raising it and then puts it away, saying "Close... but no cigar."

Jasiwel1 votes

In before it's in his ultimate skin.

Archenz1 votes

Honestly ADC and the entire class needs an overhaul. They need new items to help them out.

Rank promos are stupid honestly

A Miss Fortune1 votes

Yeah, ADC just doesn't feel that great to play right now, especially with the items. AP Carries have a lot more customization that they can use against certain matchups. Right now bot lane is just a "Okay who can finish Infinity Edge first".

ErrantLord1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Wicked Waffle,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pTxrg9zu,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2015-09-06T17:15:05.628+0000)

Removal of Promo Series Graves to have his cigar back

I need these

Jofeyy1 votes

Hopefully they reconsider doing the sandbox mode idea too

Lord Dusteon14 votes

ADC itemization overhaul.

Penns7 votes

Poppy Yorick Taric

Keevalroy7 votes

Some things to hope for:

  • 5 bans per side (1 for each player)
  • Promotion elimination
  • Finishing routing optimization to the Chicago servers
  • Removal of Sated Devourer with the promise that a similar item will not be attempted again
  • Tanks - NOT JUGGERNAUTS are buffed
  • Assassin Ahri comes back instead of this mindless kite mage
  • Revive is returned
  • Vayne counters are buffed since I don't want to feel guilty about playing her
  • The balance team stops their drug sessions during office time and balances for the player for once instead of the pro scene and will take feedback from players instead of being ignorant pricks about it pretending what they're doing is for the greater good
  • They'll roll everything back to the later part of the Cinderhulk meta where people were generally happy about game balance and how many viable picks we had and accept that not everything needs to be #FlashyLCSBigPlaysSwagYolo420Airhorn for League to be entertaining

What will most likely happen:

The balance team will have a grand idea for how to save League balance, they'll fuck it up horribly, ignore feedback, release the idea anyway, and people will be even more angry with them. CertainlyT will create another toxic abomination that forever warps gameplay and utterly breaks the game, Riot will still allow him to touch champions, the balance team will see this champion as fun and exciting, buff them, and the game will be borderline unplayable for the next 5 patches.

Archenz2 votes

You can't really blame CertainlyT, he's not the balance department. He makes the kit, not the numbers, we need to stop blaming him.

A lot of his champions are fun but delicate, so if you increase there numbers a tad they spire out of control.

Keevalroy2 votes

I definitely can blame him for making obnoxious, overloaded, completely broken kits. I can blame the balance team for making them worse, and / or keeping them strong for no reason other than they like watching / playing them.

Meanie404 votes

CertainlyT is one of the few people talented enough to be able to stick his head so far up his own rear end that it comes out of his neck again.

AutoreactiveCD41 votes

Well the point about numbers you made is symptom of broken champion kits.

Archenz6 votes

The Boards very own Jesus (Repetoir)said.

As to Juggernauts and player sentiment around them, my personal opinion is that we probably still have some fine tuning follow-up to do to them in the upcoming patches, and then hopefully they'll be in a good long term spot. The goal of big changes like the Juggernaut changes is definitely to find these somewhat antiquated characters a new niche/home in the game, and we are pretty fully aware we won't hit the mark on all of them, especially on the first try. I'm personally pretty excited for pre-season, because as a designer on champions, it means I have a lot more freedom to explore ideas for champions without them being such a huge risk to game balance down the stretch.

So we might see more reworks!

TurquoiseYoshi4 votes

I'm hoping for not an enormous jungle revamp, as it would require me to relearn a role I am already extremely familiar with. This will be the first time I'll be here during a preseason (joined League at around 5.3), so it will be fun to watch such huge changes unfold.

Lowvyr1 votes

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I'm hoping for not an enormous jungle revamp, as it would require me to relearn a role I am already extremely familiar with. This will be the first time I'll be here during a preseason (joined League at around 5.3), so it will be fun to watch such huge changes unfold.

It's honestly kind of shocking. It really gets you that the game changes that much that fast.

TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

Meddler said that apparently the jungle won't be changed too much, which is nice. But now I'm expecting something big somewhere else, which is spooky.

Avios14 votes

"Compensation Buffs" Urgot Yorick and Poppy

SEKAI3 votes

Revert the bad reworks, unwanted balance changes and the stupid class system we have atm.

Archenz7 votes

Class system? Bad reworks?

IMO the reworks were fine, they might be overturned, but they aren't fundamentally broken.

Class system? What ?

A Miss Fortune4 votes

Fiora Garen Mordekaiser Darius Skarner Gangplank

SEKAI1 votes

{quoted}

Class system? Bad reworks?

IMO the reworks were fine, they might be overturned, but they aren't fundamentally broken.

Class system? What ?

Class system then: Mage/Mage assassin/Support/MADC/Tank/Bruiser/Fighter/MADC/Assassins

Class system now: Mage/Support/Tank/Juggernaut/Assassins

Which is better? I would rather the first one, remember League is a MOBA/ARTS and not an MMORPG.

The only reworks I actually like are the YI and Sion rework, everything else is just shit or diarrhea.

Archenz1 votes

Well to each his own.

I think everything is still the same, mage assassins still exist. Fizz, Leblonk, annie, etc. Your telling me Bruisers dont exist anymore? Fighters?

Sorry but thats wrong imo, the class system is still the same, if anything its slightly larger now with juggers being added.

JustMyBassCannon3 votes

I'm expecting the Marksman rework this preseason.

And Poppy's as well.

gubigubi3 votes

Quinn rework possibly Fiora probably gets her rework gutted Leblanc wouldn't be that shocked to see something happen to (Rework/power shift in her kit)

So aka I'm not going to have a fun time at all.

But I hope they just redo the jungle again and put in another BC/targons OP level item and call it another preseason.

P.S. Ripitem 3711 there's no way this item lives another season.

DogIsGod2 votes

MY hopes: Jungle being balanced for once. That's it.

Archenz3 votes

Well, your allowed to dream

MakeThemRemember2 votes

Anyone know when the actual pre season starts ? :O

pacifishstick2 votes

Poros. Poros everywhere.

Anisoptera2 votes

Wishlist: 3 new refunds No more champions with bullshit kits Ekko Kalista No more repeats of the past where something returns worse than ever with even more power item 3930 item 3931 item 3932 item 3933 ADC item rework Reverting the nerfs of Gromp, Sejuani and Sion Gutting champions that have enough time in the spotlight Yasuo LeeSin Fizz Riven Ahri Buffs for Aatrox Lucian Galio No more reworks (looking at you, CertainlyT) where everyone gets True Damage and remove any chance to ban champions that aren't the monstrosities of 5.16. Darius Garen Skarner Fiora Mordekaiser Reworks for Poppy Urgot Taric

Westonbirt2 votes

Some buffs ?

item 3070 Urgot item 3070

RisenDarkKnight1 votes

My hopes: not having to ban the juggernauts/fiora/vayne every game.

Archenz1 votes

Screw Vayne.

I don't really ban skarner or Garen anymore. The nerfs put them at a balance state. I still ban Darius because my team is usually stupid and refuses to kite him.

My bans are always Vayne Wukong Whatever is meta. (Darius, fiora)

warpenguin5551 votes

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Screw Vayne.

I don't really ban skarner or Garen anymore. The nerfs put them at a balance state. I still ban Darius because my team is usually stupid and refuses to kite him.

My bans are always Vayne Wukong Whatever is meta. (Darius, fiora)

wukong isnt a bad ban imo. have you ever seen one in ranked not get fed?

Wheatloaf1 votes

I just enjoy the period of time where the meta is thrown into turmoil. Happens after basically every major change, but Preseason changes definitely have a longer-lasting effect. People won't start caring what champions I pick/ban for as long as a month.

Archenz1 votes

I think the adapting to Riots balance team move swings is what keeps the game fresh imo. If everything was always balanced and stale, lets be honest, might not be here. The ever changing game and adapting to the bs broken picks makes the game fun and Riot knows this.

Zone of Endless1 votes

Complete ranked work over. It's insane my promos are dependent on how well might team needs to do making it completely based on luck because if I get decent teammates I'll climb, but I get crap teammates for 2/3 games and I go nowhere.

Archenz1 votes

Your tilting, take a break. I know the system is crap, and mostly based on luck. But your probs on a losing spree, take a small break then go back when you have the right mindset that you can carry yourself and your team.

Zone of Endless1 votes

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Your tilting, take a break. I know the system is crap, and mostly based on luck. But your probs on a losing spree, take a small break then go back when you have the right mindset that you can carry yourself and your team.

I'm certain I'm not tilting when I win bot lane and roam to help other lane but they decide to be dumb and die 1v5 anyway

I can't carry my team when they can't carry themselves out of laning phase

KONO RUBICK DA1 votes

ADC not being the only carry i have to play in the game without making them weaker in their role

Koldheartedjsp1 votes

meddler said in another thread there isn't a huge jungle change this time around :/

hopefully something interesting like new runes, a new mastery page, something :/

BlkGolem1 votes

"New Champions with New Mechanics" I just hope they fix the old ones first. Also Ao Shin maybe?

warpenguin5551 votes

the biggest question is: where will the new jungle camp be located this year?

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