Duskblade was perfectly fine before 7.14

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I still don't understand why this item was overloaded so much for just a 10 damage nerf.

Duskblade was in a perfectly fine niche spot for lethality stacking assassins who could make the most of the 200% lethality on hit portion with the higher end attack damage. Now I see everyone from ADC to tanks building it just for the overloaded on hit.

Yes because having a ranged zed or talon aka Caitlyn kill you faster than actual assassins with a duskblade at early-mid game is so healthy.

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Hawckey1 votes

Pretty sure lethality turned into garbage before recent patches, and duskblade was just hotfixed wasn't it? Also since when does a cait buy duskblade lmao

sosij1 votes

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Pretty sure lethality turned into garbage before recent patches, and duskblade was just hotfixed wasn't it? Also since when does a cait buy duskblade lmao

umm you havent been playing too much recently theres always at least 3-4 duskblades per game

Craft Zeppelin2 votes

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umm you havent been playing too much recently theres always at least 3-4 duskblades per game

Build friggin armor ffs.

Leaf on Bush1 votes

I picked rammus and went afk on mid lane. Free win.

Hawckey1 votes

I played several games in the past few days. Some of them I used duskblade myself on Kha. I rushed it second item every game on him and it felt a bit too strong maybe. Most of the time I play squishy mages tho, and I do not even notice it, cause most mages rush the same item first every game as well (Morello's). Also if there are that many duskblades on a team it means they're squishy as fuck and probably easy to beat by just buying armor.

Evil Yasuo1 votes

She builds it now. So does jarvan, so does akali, so does garen, so does every non assassin.

Hawckey1 votes

Yea maybe in your cancer bronze elo normal games, in reality it's just not as viable as their other options. (Aside from maybe playing against all squishy teams, on J4), even against squishies it's not that great to build lethality on any champ

Evil Yasuo1 votes

Ew look, a gold spray painted trash can is trying to communicate to me.

Hawckey1 votes

I'm just saying to stop pretending it's even close to meta to have lethality on any champ, I can only see it working against morons

Evil Yasuo1 votes

Listen, I wish the duskblade wasn't even nerfed. I'm a Talon main, I just dislike how many people are abusing it to the point there's over 10000 threads a day saying "oh god please nerf it!!!!".

ZedUsanGovos1 votes

Honestly. Damn ADCs and bruisers stealing our jobs! #BuildTheWall

Bruisers should build semi-tank and semi-damage, but that damage should be focused on dueling and lifestealing.

ADCs similarly should build all damage, but that damage should be focused around crit, attack speed and lifesteal.

Assassins should be able to oneshot if someone steps out of any ally range, but ADCs should not one-shot every squishy player during a teamfight. THEY should deal sustained damage. I'm not saying ADCs should be weak, I'm saying that Crit already works fine for Cait, Jhin, and Draven, and building Lethality is insane because with Crit, they didn't immediately burst a fed Zed.

I might just be biased, but I feel every role has been given their item type.

Tanks have armor, health, and in most cases just plain AD or AP.

Bruisers have lifesteal, duelist items, and health/armor.

Assassins have Lethality, AP, and some dueling items, depending on the champion.

Mages have AP/Mag Pen, mana, and some health items

ADCs/marksmen have crit, ASpeed, and lifesteal.

All of these roles have their optimum damage output with these items, and perform excellently with the items they should have, but when one role starts abusing a stat/item, then it makes the game unhealthier, and as a result, causes the item in question to be nerfed, and even further, starts to make the role the item was meant for weaker. Case in point, ADCs abusing Lethality. Everyone acts like assassins were the central point of nerfing Lethality, but everyone forgot Jhin, Quinn, MF, and maybe Cait? Not sure if she built it back then. The point is, ADCs and Marksmen played a huge role in the initial downfall of Lethality, and were the reason the ranged damage on Duskblade was reduced.

Now, how to fix it? Either remove Lethality and bring back the original Arm Pen, or make Lethality melee focused. Or even tweak the champions instead, then. Another thing is Riot always targets the stat, rather than the individuals becoming much stronger than intended with it.

But that's just my viewpoint.

Leaf on Bush1 votes

A jarvan who only relies on 1 shot cheese without having tankiness to actually team fight will get slaughtered as soon as there is 1 real tank blocking him. Duskblade is a pure snowball item, you just have to be careful and not feed 5 kills to him and lose control over your lane/jungle.

Leaf on Bush1 votes

Duskblade was perfectly fine. Is that why we never saw it?

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