17 Comments

BLIGHTBRINGER7/25/2018, 2:43:26 PM4 votes

Funny because he himself is actually never op, but it's the items that make it seem so.

  • First it was Lethality + Armor Pen item 3142 item 3036 item 3004 (Some items nerfed or changed)
  • Then On-Hit item 3153 item 3091 item 3124 item 3085 (Some items nerfed or changed)
  • Critical Strike build item 3508 item 3031 item 3046 (Wasn't that played often but also nerfed or changed)
  • Ability Power + On-Hit item 3124 item 3115 (Guinsoo's Rageblade also nerfed and changed)

It's not that he's being nerfed directly but indirectly through items that he uses. The thing is Varus was always a really weak champion before Season 7 (had a 47% winrate) then he became one of the Top Tier after a while.

Then he continuesly kept getting indirect nerfs and minor direct ones to some of his abilities that made almost all of his playstyles non-viable.


In my opinion (coming from a guy who mains Varus since mid Season 5), just rework him. He shouldn't have to rely this heavily on items to be able to deal more damage with his abilities. His kit is a mix of Poke, Hybrid, On-Hit, AD and AP Damage that doesn't really synergize well for the following reasons...

  • Going AP makes his Q and E deal no dmg alone without Blight Stacks.
  • Going AD Lethality Poke is risky due to high ability mana costs, high cooldowns and also makes his R damage irrelevant.
  • Going full On-Hit is a bad choice because his kit isn't fully designed in a way to operate as an On-Hit champion like Kog'Maw for example with his W.
  • Going Crit is bad because he doesn't have decent base Attack Damage due to what his W is, as well as his abilities don't support that kind of playstyle.

Even when I love Varus as a champion, I have to admit to myself that his kit is a bit of a mess and doesn't really function as well as it could. During his future rework (that was teased by a Rioter on Reddit) I would still want to see some aspects of him kept the same (Blight Theme, Q Snipe).

The thing that annoyed me about a champion like Kai'Sa is because parts of her felt like Varus we never got. She's a better Hybrid Marksman than him because she has both AP and AD scallings on all of her abilities (besides E).

OtterlyLost7/25/2018, 2:29:28 PM4 votes

Well they literally nerfed all of his AD builds, to be honest. He used to have a very big variety of builds: lethality, crit, bork rush, on hit...

They've just slowly and systematically destroyed each one. Lethality doesn't work because of the changes to his Q, on hit got nerfed with rageblade, bork rush is okay but not great in a bruiser meta, and we know where crit is at.

Fízz v27/25/2018, 2:56:19 PM2 votes

yet he remains one of the most contested bot laners along with other adcs https://i.gyazo.com/c89415e650de4a958f98c6ecacedf015.png dead class hehe xd

MFTORANK17/25/2018, 3:06:32 PM2 votes

I don't think Riot likes Varus very much, as soon as he becomes viable or S tier they find a way to nerf him, seems strange to me.

Ravenhale7/25/2018, 2:37:53 PM1 votes

After 8 attempts in 3 days I finally got an S- on Trist.

I don't recall her ever being nerfed (actually looks like she was hotfixed buffed in July).

deadlychuck7/25/2018, 10:28:18 PM1 votes

I really don't want to encourage them on this matter. They better not rework him and they better not go poking around with his "non-identity" numbers to justify buffing his "core identity". Hell, I found out that they apparently added some stupid active to his W, which was completely necessary and feels clunky and terrible. If they fuck up when they're only trying to change a single skill, I really don't want them to be coming anywhere near him with anything equal or more than that.

I'd rather him be competitively useless and fun, than competitively viable and absolutely miserable to play (because the state of the game and riot's philosophy has inexplicably made those two things mutually exclusive).

4th3t0s7/25/2018, 3:59:34 PM1 votes

Because Kaisa got released

Death by Glamour7/25/2018, 4:26:55 PM1 votes

or

we could nerf the others instead of adding to the damage creep

Daddy Ants7/25/2018, 2:52:18 PM1 votes

Varus has really high damage IF you know how to use it.

What are you talking about?

Oh wait!

Champion.gg LUL