I see so many people blaming this or that as the sole reason for this game not being fun,

Anatera··18 votes·912 views

but the answer for why the game isn't fun anymore is very simple and all encompassing. Riot has made a select cadre of characters and playstyles ridiculously overpowered with their extremely stupid runes reforged and leaving all other characters behind. The reason you're not having fun is because this select group of champs and playstyles have to be banned, countered or picked because if you don't then you're at a guaranteed disadvantage. It's not about playing whoever you want to play and playing them however you want to play them. It's about breaking the game with the most OP things currently in the meta. If you play who you want, you are now at a disadvantage. Unless it's one of those select champs.

Simply put, there is no variety, there is no choice, therefore there is no agency on your part. Too many things are out of your control and whatever control you can exert is too small to matter. You are forced to play within a particular group of characters or the enemy team will outpick you. You're forced to buy certain items or the enemy will itemize better than you. You're forced to cater to specific lanes or the enemy jungler will and you'll fall behind. You're forced to play around short game times or the enemy team will do it instead and you'll lose. Riot is forcing you out of choices. That's why this game isn't fun anymore, because Riot is slowly eliminating your choices and removing your agency. No matter how well you play, you do not matter anymore. And you know what? They know it.

That is why they released runes reforged, because there's less choice, less variety and fewer variables, making it easier for them to control. With runes and masteries before, there were too many variables that interacted unpredictably. This made the game fun, but it made it difficult for Riot to control. Riot is not in the business of fun. Not anymore.

I get that when you get out of a game, you're inclined to blame that "thing" that beat you as the problem, but the issue with LoL not being fun is bigger than that. Don't let Riot get the wrong idea. Even if they're too stubborn to improve the game, it's better to know that they're doing it despite the player base fully understanding what was wrong with it to begin with.

23 Comments

Crystalysk10 votes

Well, this is pretty much the reason why i stopped playing the day before season 8 start. Spent the whole pre-season trying to learn toplane because even if i'm a jungle main lots of times i was getting top lane for my games since it is my secondary role. Well it wasn't a fun experience. I've been around since season 3 and i can say, right now, season 8 is the one less forgiving for off-meta champions.

Back in the days we could pick some off-meta and still have the chance to come back even after a mistake, if you make a mistake with an off-meta champion right now your game is pretty much over because you are lucky if Camille and Gnar will let you stay in range of creeps exp.

But again, if Riot wants its game to be like this it's ok, i just can't adapt to the "new" version of the game so i guess it's time for me to move.

Z3Sleeper5 votes

I feel like this is the 8th "This is the REAL reason" post.

EssenceOfPoo3 votes

everybody has opinions. not everyone has the awareness to realize those are opinions.

...and opinions vary. they lie on a scale of blind beliefs to evidence-based opinions. and one's confidence in their opinions should be reflected by where their opinions lie on that spectrum. not every opinion is equal. some opinions don't deserve equal standing/platform.

Anatera2 votes

Sure, but my answer is right though.

Rude Name3 votes

IMO Nerf roles, not champions

ADCs rely off items too much, nerf the items. Bruisers have bad items, slightly buff the items

Simples

AirKingNeo3 votes

because that totally fixes Xayah, Kog, and Tristana being overpowered.

Rude Name2 votes

Of course it doesn’t, it fixes the problems of ADCs being overpowered in general. There’s plenty of suggestions to fix those 3, so that’s an additional measure.

AirKingNeo3 votes

so why nerf lucian, ashe, sivir, ect?

HaIlMonitor2 votes

You act like they cant buff the weak champs? If they nerf a classes items they could buff/nerf the actual champions. Right now if they nerf the "top adc" another 1 or 3 replace them as super op, because the only reason it seemed bad was they got bullied out by the top dog in the lane.

AirKingNeo2 votes

Except we both know Ashe's kit is in a perfectly fine spot and it's the kits of broken ADC who should just be nerfed.

HaIlMonitor2 votes

Perma slow and Hard cc is perfectly fine on glass cannons? They should make Kat ult slow and her E stun also.....

AirKingNeo3 votes

She loses a lot of damage for that utility and the utility has scaling with items rather than just being based on her level.

HaIlMonitor2 votes

https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/kr/adc/diamond/by-winrate

She isnt played much but when she is has a 55.3% win-rate in high elo in diamond. She isn't in "meta" but is still very strong. Every adc scales on items but I would honestly put Ashe in the same Category as Caitlyn and vayne where if they get too strong and start to see love BAM all the sudden they are toxic and ruin the game because they are hard to deal with.

AirKingNeo2 votes
HaIlMonitor1 votes

Lol whatever. Korea is the only compettive ladder and you are an adc advocate for some strange reason even though they have been top class way more then they have been bad "ADC2k17 lul".

I honestly dont understand how you think nerfing all adc items is a bad place to start when every other class (sometimes multiple times like assassins and bruisers) get their items nerfed. Mages did in season 5 and people still complain about it. The only people who dont get nerfs are ADC's outside of ones that effect pro play too much like Kalista or actual toxic kits like Vayne. They allow them to do whatever but "ErMeRgErd, AsHe WiLl Be LeSs ViAbLe"

Good luck in your future forum troll endeavors.

AirKingNeo1 votes

I'm a top lane main, but I'm not delusional to how the game should be balanced.

Because you have to nerf their kits to put them on an equal level because that's more important.

Why should Ashe, Lucian, Jhin, or Sivir be nerfed? I used Ashe as an example and you gave bogus data. You still haven't made a real argument.

I used basic logic. Trolls are people who cherrypick data.

Bob the Toastr2 votes

Unfortunately if they do that ADCs will just abuse bruiser items like they always have :item 1054 item 3071 item 3302

Pandemic Punch3 votes

What happened to, "It isn't fun anymore because I am tired of the game". Why does something always have to be blamed? If this was the same game it was when I started in season 2, I would have stopped playing in season 3. The changes keep it fresh and champions are always coming and going in the meta. If you don't like the game right now, wait a few months and the meta will be different.

P.S. Runes Reforged was the best change that has happened to this game in a very long time.

Theorex2 votes

Tbh, I wanted to read this. But the wall of text looking style really turned me off.

I only post things like this when I want to vent. Verse when I actually break things apart and try to make it easy to read. Only to get downvoted :|

So I'll upvote you anyways.

Leaf on Bush1 votes

Too much text, not enough pictures?

Theorex1 votes

I would like a comic explaining all of this tbh. Some good animations = 20 upvotes.

ZT Xperimentor2 votes

Unfortunately more or less nailed it, they've repeatedly removed or skewed choice over the years.

Lios Ashenblade1 votes

Ive won bot and still lost the game tho bro, if top and mid feed, or your jungle is basically 3 cats standing on a bucket wearing a coat, you are going to have a bad time

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