Just wait till S9 preseason

Anatera··86 votes·19,298 views

Everything will be fixed by then.

Wink wink.

58 Comments

saltran32 votes

Wrong Board, this is not Memes and Games

Altiverse85 votes

But isn't Gameplay a meme? http://i.imgur.com/TkWB3lt.png

koshkyra17 votes

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But isn't Gameplay a meme? http://i.imgur.com/TkWB3lt.png

this

ZackTheWaffleMan8 votes

Upvoted for the Bard.

LVL99 Helper TK6 votes

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But isn't Gameplay a meme? http://i.imgur.com/TkWB3lt.png

DESTROYED LUL

RainXBlade1 votes

I mean, you ain't wrong....

spiroskiller101 votes

Well...

Sex Crazed Eve19 votes

They used to promise us nothing and deliver less. Now they the promise us tons of things and do the opposite.

PhearBunny16 votes

If ive learned anything from this company, its that nothing ever gets fixed, it only gets progressively worse.

Potchikir14 votes

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If ive learned anything from this company, its that nothing ever gets fixed, it only gets progressively worse.

List of things that were fixed on season 8 Ap items Unsealed Spellbook Ap champions dealing no damage to turrets Ahri Rengar Quinn Jhin Cloud drake buff Added open parties option Volibear Tank junlgers being warding slaves Ryze auto escape: item 3157+Ulti combo Chogath's ugly vfx Irelia and Swain not fitting their themes

Arakadia3 votes

Hey no!

Riot is literally incapable of doing anything right. They never fix anything!

Potchikir2 votes

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Hey no!

Riot is literally incapable of doing anything right. They never fix anything!

Why are people downvoting this, I am pretty sure its sarcasm

Arakadia1 votes

Oh hot damn.

Yeah it was sarcasm but I guess there are too many people who would say that for real. It's hard to tell anymore if people are seriously that ridiculous.

PhearBunny4 votes

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List of things that were fixed on season 8 Ap items Unsealed Spellbook Ap champions dealing no damage to turrets Ahri Rengar Quinn Jhin Cloud drake buff Added open parties option Volibear Tank junlgers being warding slaves Ryze auto escape: item 3157+Ulti combo Chogath's ugly vfx Irelia and Swain not fitting their themes

I see your point so let me re-iterate. They don't fix things, without creating more glaring problems For example- currently bad players have more impact on the game than good players do. In the sense your bad teammate has a larger effect on the outcome of the game than you do, regardless of how good you are doing. Riot even acknowledges this, and this isn't just a champ balance issue this is a massive glaring issue.

P0IS0N IVY24 votes

You actually think AP items were fixed?

Potchikir1 votes

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You actually think AP items were fixed?

Yes i do

P0IS0N IVY1 votes

The QoL for AP champions has been slowly decreasing as the seasons go on. They've removed spell blade, decreased AP across the board by ~20% (this was season 8 I believe), removed a lot of mana regen, and have yet to introduce more pen items (and defensive items with mana). This has caused a resurge of AD champions, including non mana using ones such as Zed and Yasuo. It used to be that AP was cheaper than AD by a good margin because it was mainly used through spells. I probably missed out on a ton of other changes but I honestly don't think AP items have been fixed.

Śhunpo12 votes

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List of things that were fixed on season 8 Ap items Unsealed Spellbook Ap champions dealing no damage to turrets Ahri Rengar Quinn Jhin Cloud drake buff Added open parties option Volibear Tank junlgers being warding slaves Ryze auto escape: item 3157+Ulti combo Chogath's ugly vfx Irelia and Swain not fitting their themes

List of things Riot fucked up in season 8:

The runes Assassins being borderline useless ADCs being broken Supports being IMBA as hell Junglers ruling over lanes Releasing Zoe Ryze....again Blue essence ADCs being broken Tanks....again Irelia Her rework just makes a balance nightmare....Where did I hear this before.....Katarina Oh right, yeah I remember now.... Swain Balance nightmare. Overbuffed. Still overbuffed. item 2420 This. Fucking. Item. ADCS BEING BLOODY BROKEN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Barcid4 votes

{quoted} ADCs being broken

That was in the latter half of season 7 ya silly person. They've just neglected to fix the issue well into season 8.

Śhunpo2 votes

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That was in the latter half of season 7 ya silly person. They've just neglected to fix the issue well into season 8.

I mean, they did make it worse by essentially giving ADCs a better Warlord's Bloodlust AND nerfing assassins into the ground.....also enchanters being buffed through runes, as well as tank supports.

Saezio3 votes

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List of things Riot fucked up in season 8:

The runes Assassins being borderline useless ADCs being broken Supports being IMBA as hell Junglers ruling over lanes Releasing Zoe Ryze....again Blue essence ADCs being broken Tanks....again Irelia Her rework just makes a balance nightmare....Where did I hear this before.....Katarina Oh right, yeah I remember now.... Swain Balance nightmare. Overbuffed. Still overbuffed. item 2420 This. Fucking. Item. ADCS BEING BLOODY BROKEN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I like the runes (except how ADC runes are 2x stronger than all other runes) but everything else on that list seems right. You forgot how item 3060 made competitive boring as fk. Oh also Irelia doesn't seem too broken.

Śhunpo2 votes

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I like the runes (except how ADC runes are 2x stronger than all other runes) but everything else on that list seems right. You forgot how item 3060 made competitive boring as fk. Oh also Irelia doesn't seem too broken.

Yeah item 3060 was indeed an issue, but I blame it more on baron. I dislike the runes since the old runes and masteries were actually nice and refined, there was no reason to change them outside of changing them for the hell of it.

Irelia is broken. Ask anyone and you'll find out that she's broken.

Saezio1 votes

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Yeah item 3060 was indeed an issue, but I blame it more on baron. I dislike the runes since the old runes and masteries were actually nice and refined, there was no reason to change them outside of changing them for the hell of it.

Irelia is broken. Ask anyone and you'll find out that she's broken.

Oh well then, BETTER NERF IRELIA !

Potchikir1 votes

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List of things Riot fucked up in season 8:

The runes Assassins being borderline useless ADCs being broken Supports being IMBA as hell Junglers ruling over lanes Releasing Zoe Ryze....again Blue essence ADCs being broken Tanks....again Irelia Her rework just makes a balance nightmare....Where did I hear this before.....Katarina Oh right, yeah I remember now.... Swain Balance nightmare. Overbuffed. Still overbuffed. item 2420 This. Fucking. Item. ADCS BEING BLOODY BROKEN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Zoe was released on 2017

Śhunpo1 votes

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Zoe was released on 2017

During preseason which counts as season 8 :)

Saezio2 votes

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List of things that were fixed on season 8 Ap items Unsealed Spellbook Ap champions dealing no damage to turrets Ahri Rengar Quinn Jhin Cloud drake buff Added open parties option Volibear Tank junlgers being warding slaves Ryze auto escape: item 3157+Ulti combo Chogath's ugly vfx Irelia and Swain not fitting their themes

All that is not even relevant. Graves got his cigar back

Aseraan1 votes

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If ive learned anything from this company, its that nothing ever gets fixed, it only gets progressively worse.

Hence we have the thing called band-aid.

Ariel the Cruel1 votes

Stop trying to control my toxicity!

Barcid1 votes

Did you just assume my intentions!?

Ariel the Cruel1 votes

No need. It's all in the name. ;p

Barcid1 votes

That's namist. Just because it's my name you think that must be how I am?

What if my name was Dick? Huh? Check your privilege!

Ariel the Cruel1 votes

What if my name was Dick?

Then you would obviously be a detective. ;p

rtbf2234347211 votes

I want this 2 mugs...

TRADITION $ 20.00

Just because you've always done it that way doesn't mean it's not incredibly stupid.

MISTAKES $ 20.00

It could be that the purpose of your life is only to serve as a warning to others.

They ship it worldwide?

FilDaFunk9 votes

Of course! All the current probelms will be overshadowed by an even bigger problem.

Fondling Gems8 votes

More like S19.

Marothennan5 votes

IT'S JUST PRESEASON

Rainfall4 votes

-The Riot Classic- Riot causes a champion to go into a broken state for 2 months Riot Nerfs the champion to the Ground Riot makes post about how champion needs a rework and that everything will be fixed in 2 years.

Arakadia1 votes

This has happened only a few times and not recently.

Thefrostyviking4 votes

Yasuo Malzahar Akali Azir Kalista Viktor Poppy Viktor Gragas Mordekaiser Skarner Galio

While riot hasnt said anything about reworks for most of these the entire "buffs sky high before dropping them to earth for ages" is quite accurate.

All these champs were made broken as hell at some point before eating a endless amount of nerfs then a few compensation buffs followed by a few more nerfs until the playerbase abandons them more or less.

The malz episode is ongoing, Yasuo rework just went silent since last year, Akali rework is silent and all the other sit on pitiful pickrates as a result of their nerfs or reworks just not working out for them.

Arakadia5 votes

Akali rework is not silent. It is still very active, its just Riot isn't constantly talking about it because there isn't much they can talk about.

There never was a Yasuo rework. I think they said they would try out some changes, but it wasn't ever a big thing.

Thefrostyviking2 votes

Alright i actually went to check and realized news on the Akali rework actually came out like 3 weeks ago.

I completely missed it, my bad x)

And Riot did at some point legitimately state that in the light of the fact that so many people just hate ever seeing Yasuo they were going to look into reworking or at least changing him into something less frustrating to deal with and boards went over the moon with hype for it.

Never happened.

Well, he has been seeing rising popularity since conqueror came out and so i figure those who forgot about it due to the ardent meta and all that will probably remember pretty soon.

If not then, then under the next patch when IE goes true damage......once the botlane balance hype dies down a bit.

RocketRelm1 votes

I remember that "Yasuo Rework" comment. One Rioter said in an offhand side comment that they might be willing to consider it. That's pretty far off from a promise.

Thefrostyviking1 votes

https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2017/06/ask-riot-yasuo-gets-banned/

Here they state that while they know that Yasuo barely has any presence higher up his alarmingly high banrate and just generally awful reputation below the peak had served to bump him up on the list for champs they wanted to make a mini rework for on the scale of heimer/rek sai.

Something that never happened.

Saezio1 votes

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Yasuo Malzahar Akali Azir Kalista Viktor Poppy Viktor Gragas Mordekaiser Skarner Galio

While riot hasnt said anything about reworks for most of these the entire "buffs sky high before dropping them to earth for ages" is quite accurate.

All these champs were made broken as hell at some point before eating a endless amount of nerfs then a few compensation buffs followed by a few more nerfs until the playerbase abandons them more or less.

The malz episode is ongoing, Yasuo rework just went silent since last year, Akali rework is silent and all the other sit on pitiful pickrates as a result of their nerfs or reworks just not working out for them.

What? Viktor is great, before he was never seen at all anywhere ever same as Galio and skarner before reworks even locking them was considered troll. Now all 3 are even played in competitive.

Thefrostyviking1 votes

At some point viktor was a must pick in LCS and nearing 100% p/b rate.

Now? Sitting at 46,4% winrate and 2,8 pickrate in Korea plati+

He is not great, not anywhere near great .....this clearly since despite his mains dedicating efforts he still sits so far down.

Just compare to Lissandra, a champ with 1,8% pickrate, she similarly most likely only have mains playing her and yet her winrate sits at 52%+ winrate.

Even Malzahar, another mage that supposedly does well generally sits at 3% pickrate with fewer mains and still somehow has 51,2% winrate.

Viktor is clearly not good generally, rather he seems to either be pure shit or he has been eating so many nerfs that only really high level players and mains can pull him off......neither is good.

Saezio1 votes

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At some point viktor was a must pick in LCS and nearing 100% p/b rate.

Now? Sitting at 46,4% winrate and 2,8 pickrate in Korea plati+

He is not great, not anywhere near great .....this clearly since despite his mains dedicating efforts he still sits so far down.

Just compare to Lissandra, a champ with 1,8% pickrate, she similarly most likely only have mains playing her and yet her winrate sits at 52%+ winrate.

Even Malzahar, another mage that supposedly does well generally sits at 3% pickrate with fewer mains and still somehow has 51,2% winrate.

Viktor is clearly not good generally, rather he seems to either be pure shit or he has been eating so many nerfs that only really high level players and mains can pull him off......neither is good.

What you use to see stats? Because I just saw lissandra has a 45,2% winrate in KR D+ and mid malza was bellow 50% with 80% of games as mid and the rest 20% of games had a 57% or more winrate on adc/jungle/top malza. Genuinely do not know who is correct here and I would like a trustworthy stats site.

Thefrostyviking1 votes

Checked OP.GG for those stats, but if we look at the more reliable league of graphs then Viktor sits at 2,4% pickrate and 44,6% winrate.

Lissandra sits at 2,7% and 49,9% winrate.

Malzahar at 3,4 pickrate and 50,1% winrate.

If we raise the bar to diamond + then Viktor sinks to 1,1% pickrate, and still 44% winrate, the lack of change in winrate despite the drop in playrate is a sign of mains struggling like hell just to make the champ work.

Lissandra goes to 3,4% pickrate but 45% winrate.....surprising lot of Lissandra mains trying to make it work but failing more than not.

And malzahar goes to 2,3% pickrate but 55,9% winrate.

So if going only by diamond + then both viktor and lissandra are shit while malzahar is pure gold x)

So well....i wasnt wrong really, Viktor is indeed shit, and in light of having checked know that Lissandra is fine up to diamond then she is equally bad as viktor.

And having a healthy dose of respect for dedicated malz mains in a matchup is needed least they get even more freelo.

Saezio1 votes

Yeah it seems that liss and viktor need some love in a way it raises the skill floor but not the ceiling too much, I was swayed by streamers/competitive that use viktor to maximum efficiency in an environment where control mages are by definition more valuable than soloq. I was not saying you were wrong, just wanted to know what sites people use for stats because I too use the same 2 sites.

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