Yorick, Darius, Akali, and Gangplank have toxic kits vs champions and should be reworked ASAP

IsIsGankedParis··4 votes·1,414 views

But those reworks are the ones constantly pushed aside by Riot, mainly Yorick as he has an incredibly toxic kit, is removed from the free champion rotation, and they said they regret releasing him.

Yet they STILL haven't reworked him.

Why?

13 Comments

Nybx4life1 votes

So...how do they have toxic kits?

IsIsGankedParis2 votes

Akali is point click with insane damage and sustain.

Yorick is just unfair in lane by just using spells to harass without doing anything and being rewarded with damage and tankiness to boot.

Gangplank is like Darius, extremely oppressive to melees with a perma slow.

Darius oppressive to melees but the worst against ranged.

Nybx4life1 votes

Uh, I'm no top lane player, but I'm sure those guys (including Akali despite the fact she's used mid) can be countered fairly easily. Also, Darius has only one short-range pull for champs. a good ranged champ seeing this coming can avoid it and punish them for trying to get in close.

And GP, as far as I'm concerned, only has his Q for poke/damage. Many champs can punish him for trying to come in with the q.

My point is this: you know how to play against those champs, you won't have a problem. They're not even close to what many would consider a "cheese" champ these days.

Salidfingers1 votes

Akali: Most top laners can wreck her and in mid any good burst CC mage can disable her all game.

Yorick: can be countered by Nasus, Cho, and Trundle fairly easy in lane.

Gangplank: Patheon, Olaf and Jayce can counter him hard

Darius: Olaf, Yorick, and jayce do really well too.

Sooko1 votes

Because despite being toxic, he still has weaknesses. I am not defending Yorick by any means. I find him boring to play as and vs, but to say his kit is the most urgent is just nonsense (looking at you, Shaco)

I don't really know what you want with Darius or GP. Darius is supposed to be a bully and GP's kit is currently outshined by Yasuo's in every way asides from oranges.

Akali just got nerfed quite heavily... And isn't even in the rework list, I think.

Cloud2731 votes

I'd rather see Wukong nerfed before they touch Yorick. Yorick actually has mana costs, and his abilities don't scale that well TBH. Also he doesn't have stealth.

Killer X 121 votes

Yorick is only strong in lane, and since people who are actually good at the game can farm under tower (since yorick pushes waves) he isn't a problem.

Darius has a lot of level 1 and 2 damage, and a good level 6 spike...but he is very far from having a toxic kit.

Akali was literally just nerfed. If you are unfamiliar with WHY that is a big deal, then you've never played against a good akali. They took out her level 2 cheese.

Gangplank...is bad lol, he is so bad. Oh he crits you for a huge chunk? Well since that is he only damaging ability why don't you punish him every time he uses it -_-

Yorick hasn't been reworked because 1) no one plays him 2) he is actually easy to deal with out side of lane and his map pressure is minimal 3) His rework will have to still include ghouls since that is what identities him as a champion. That takes time to work out.

Note: I know Yorick is "strong" in lane, but much of his strength comes from people not knowing how to play against him. Anyone familiar with how Yorick works can have a pretty easy time in the laning phase. He is worthless without mana and all his poke has high mana costs. Kill him before his tear, or whenever he runs oom.

IsIsGankedParis2 votes

Riot has said that these champs have toxic kits in the past and need to be reworked.

Their words not mine.

Salidfingers1 votes

To riot all champions have a toxic kit. Unless it has fla$hy LCS plays.

Ash Lockheart1 votes

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Riot has said that these champs have toxic kits in the past and need to be reworked.

Their words not mine.

And the have changed there ability after they have said that. That's what they did not me.

Killer X 121 votes

Then why did you make a thread?

IsIsGankedParis1 votes

To bring it back up to their faces and for everyone to see that champions they themselves say are toxic and un fun to play against or play with still haven't been touched.

Killer X 121 votes

You should link riot's statement in your post above then.

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