New day, Lux is still op

blfUvZ8Ybu·Feb 22, 2016·6 votes·1,023 views

25% pick rate.53% win rate.Highest 3. pick rate.Highest for mid lane.

Lux is op lets we should be nerf Viktor.Better nerf Viktor.

RIOT LOGIC

29 Comments

CherysseFeb 22, 20164 votes

True, Lux is worst than Vik, at least Vik has to take some risks.

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 22, 20163 votes

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True, Lux is worst than Vik, at least Vik has to take some risks.

Be careful! Lux mains downvote you.Meanwhile I upvote you.I agree.

Vik+range+low ult cooldown=Lux.

CherysseFeb 22, 20163 votes

Lux has range in all of her skills, the hardest one to land is ironically her shield.

GenghisEmoFeb 22, 20162 votes

Im a Lux "main" (i main Brand, Vik, Ahri, Vel, Lux, Ori in mid).

She definately needs a nerf. Maybe affect late game a bit. Less dmg, or affect late game cdr. Her early game she has clear definitive weaknesses, so get the bitch back when she misses bind. Position so minions dont trap u.

Two, Riot should make her Q's binding of second target more predictable.

EcchiOtakuTMFeb 22, 20164 votes

Lux just needs a nerf to her rank 1-4 snare duration for Q, lower her W's projectile speed and range by 1 teemo. Hurts her utility without gutting her and everyone's happy.

UirayaFeb 23, 20161 votes

This is in no way a complete dismantling

EcchiOtakuTMFeb 23, 20161 votes

It isn't one, I'm a lux main all she needs is a slight utility trim and she'll still be highly useable without making her clunky, or hurting what makes her, her.

Q snare nerf on a move lux maxes 2nd just helps trim her early, she can still set up and ulti someone with it. Hence it would be 1.2/1.4/1.6/1.8/2/

The W nerf just means she has to go a bit closer to give her team utility.

However I'm taking back the slow strength nerf suggestion because with it currently being league of swift that isn't needed to nerf.

UirayaFeb 23, 20161 votes

Lux has nothing that she didn't have three years ago, with the exception of full duration on second q target. The only even sort of reasonable nerf request is to take that back.

An eighth of a second off her snare for the majority of laning phase would destroy her. She's already highly gankable and incredibly easy to kill once you sidestep her q. Anyone with any kind of mobility or speed boost would just walk straight through it, like they do now with her "slow field". There would need to be some intense compensation buffs to go with this if it happened.

edit: oh, shredding her q like that would also effectively delete her passive, since nobody is going to be dumb enough to try to get procs when Zed/Riven/Kat/Fizz/LeBlanc is going to jump straight up your asshole before your attack animation finishes. You want to design a new passive too?

There are at least 10, if not 12 must ban champions in ranked right now. Lux is nowhere near the stupidity of Udyr, Tahm, Xin, and a whole bunch of others. And the best part is that pretty much none of them do 0 damage if you take a step to the left. Being #1 in any given category is not an issue by itself- somebody has to be #1. WHY is it a problem. Is it because mobility has gotten so out of hand that extreme safety has become valued above raw damage (Lux is on the low side for mages already, after all)?

EcchiOtakuTMFeb 23, 20161 votes

People will keep complaining about my lux unless it's done. Having a lower snare duration early game wouldn't destroy her at all anyways,

She's safe for a reason so just that small nerf to her shield and Q and she'll be balanced again.

And trust me riot can think of ways that would completely destroy her compared to that slight early game snare nerf and shield nerf.

I mean comeon it's pretty obvious lux will get hit soon high win and play rate might as well tell riot what to do before they screw her over and refuse to admit they went too far. So nerf her utility slightly, her win rate will lower and she'll still be strong for those who main her so her play rate will lower.

UirayaFeb 23, 20161 votes

It will completely destroy her, for reasons I outlined, which you ignored. AND it will remove her passive. Her Q is a big part of her safety, and you're removing it.

The ACTUAL reason for Lux's rise in popularity, that I apparently didn't spell out enough, is due to players not wanting to interact with Riot's bullshit nonsense that's infesting mid these days. Lux is essentially the same champion she was when she was released, and very little of the meta's shifts and changes have been kind to her. The League of Mobility is choking the life out of this game and THAT is what Riot needs to address, and the longer people quibble over balanced champs like Lux, the worse it's going to get for anyone not on Riot's approved list. Once "watch me jump all over lane for free lah lah lah" stops being the norm we can go back to higher damage mages being pickable again and things will balance out.

When Lux is destroyed the next safe mage is going to come up and the exact same arguments will be made about them. And this will continue until there are no safe mages left, leaving mid to be 100% ruled by resourceless assassins. Diversity!

Most of Riot's stated balance goals don't apply to Lux anyway; she's loaded to the brim with counterplay and requires a decent skill floor to be anything more than a walking buffet. And her list of flaws is ENORMOUS as it is. Not that this matters, they'll nerf or ignore whoever they like, but in a universe ruled by logic and sense (not this one) Lux mains like ourselves should have nothing to worry about.

EcchiOtakuTMFeb 23, 20161 votes

That stuff is pretty obvious, might as well pick the poison. at least it's an ability she levels up second anyway unlike swain. Unless you want riot to nerf her retardedly it's better to nerf that which is how I feel as a lux main.

GenghisEmoFeb 22, 20163 votes

Idk why nerf Vik. Lux we can nerf Q. Make bind time scale a bit. So it still rewards landing.

Nerf shield?

Or E? her early game she does have mana issues and relatively long cd (which is when i punish her). But late spams a lot (trust me. It is funny, i sometimes do it, but i save stuff just in case i get jumped). So maybe increase some late game cds if we dont nerf dmg?

EcchiOtakuTMFeb 22, 20161 votes

Lux just needs a nerf to her rank 1-4 snare duration on Q and lower her W's projectile speed and range by 1 teemo. Hurts her utility without gutting her and everyone's happy.

GenghisEmoFeb 22, 20161 votes

Yes. That would be good. Im iffy on E slow reduction, yes annoying, but it has long cd and hardcore mana cost early. Ands needs for proccing passive.

First Q nerfs to duration and have it scale is great idea.

Shield range nerf, and make Q 2nd target bind more predictable.

Then see how it goes. If still strong, E slow duration or slow reduction.

EcchiOtakuTMFeb 23, 20161 votes

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Yes. That would be good. Im iffy on E slow reduction, yes annoying, but it has long cd and hardcore mana cost early. Ands needs for proccing passive.

First Q nerfs to duration and have it scale is great idea.

Shield range nerf, and make Q 2nd target bind more predictable.

Then see how it goes. If still strong, E slow duration or slow reduction.

Yep she's always has been one of my 26 mains since about 4-5 years ago I guess. Such a nerf would fix her little issue of being too overbearing since riot made her more fluent to use with QoL buffs.

NsEternalFeb 22, 20163 votes

lux < Diana Annie Ahri

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 22, 20161 votes

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lux <

50.55% win rate against Ahri 53.72 against Diana 51.67 against Annie

Wrong excuse.

NsEternalFeb 22, 20163 votes

they need to get good then. i never lose against a lux with those champs. win rate =/= correct answer

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 22, 20161 votes

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they need to get good then. i never lose against a lux with those champs. win rate =/= correct answer

Yes win rate is correct answer.

Don't protect op champion or shut up.

NsEternalFeb 22, 20163 votes

lol

Guyy FieriFeb 22, 20162 votes

Yet somehow 2/3 of the time the Lux on my team finds a way to feed the mid laner and let the game snowball.

Tidecaller NamiFeb 23, 20162 votes

OP downvoted for speaking the truth

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 23, 20162 votes

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OP downvoted for speaking the truth

blfUvZ8YbuFeb 22, 20161 votes

Salty Lux mains everywhere :)