Is manamune worth it on Xayah?

Terozu·Sep 17, 2019·1 votes·1,518 views

Title. It's passive looks awesome with Star Guardian Xayah so i was wondering if it's a good item.

14 Comments

KeiagaSep 17, 20191 votes

Sure, it's pretty cost effective for the pure AD.

TerozuSep 17, 20191 votes

When would you recommend I get the tear then? Second back?

KeiagaSep 17, 20191 votes

Well, I don't actually think you need the manamune though. Xayah isn't particularly mana thirsty. Maybe try item 3508 instead. It might have a bit less AD once manamune stacks up, but it'll get you the mana you need for most of the game, it doesn't require an extra 5-10 minutes to stack up, and comes with 25% crit and 20% cdr

If you're deadset on trying out manamune though, I'd suggest getting tear after you're able to buy item 1037 or item 1038 . That way you should still have enough AD to farm effectively.

TerozuSep 17, 20191 votes

I'm deadset on it for the passive effect.

So get it on second back then.

I was planning on getting it with Essence Reaver, since it effectively nullifies Muramana's Mana cost.

When I tried it in practice tool it increased her DPS by almost 40%.

KeiagaSep 17, 20191 votes

hope it works out, careful about the practice tool though - it'll mess with your damage numbers if you have any sort of %hp damage since practice dummies have 50k hp

TerozuSep 17, 20191 votes

I built item 3031 item 3085 item 3087 item 3508 item 3042 item 3080

I don't think any of that has percent hp, and it gave me about 1400 DPS.

Conversely when I replaced Muramana with a Bork it lowered to around 1000 DPS

KeiagaSep 17, 20191 votes

that build is 100% crit 20%CDR 17.8k

Might want to make room for boots, without any dashes or potent speed boosts, the movement speed is pretty important. Also, you might want to try replacing item 3072 with item 3812 for a bit less lifesteal, but more healing for your skills, and 10% extra cdr

SylaelqueSep 17, 20191 votes

Manamune better for hybrid champions unfortunately Xayah can't scale with AP items so she has to go with Crit scaling items.

TerozuSep 17, 20191 votes

Manamune is pure AD-Mana, not AP.

SylaelqueSep 17, 20191 votes

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Manamune is pure AD-Mana, not AP.

item 3004 is for hybrid champions like Ezreal Kaisa who don't want to build on Crits but needed sustain their mana pool. item 3508 in other hand is a lot better for champions that scale on Crits with huge mana need. You don't have to build 2 mana items because each invertory slot important for scaling. :)

SaezioSep 17, 20191 votes

ER is just so amazingly good for Xaya that manamune would be a very cost-inefficient purchase.

But I guess you could go for some weird AD caster Xayah build with klepto and incorporate it.

TerozuSep 17, 20191 votes

I was thinking Crit with Muramana and Bloodthirster.

Zero ShingetsuSep 17, 20191 votes

If I do get Manamune, I tend to get Tear as soon as possible. Often I won't even buy starting items. I'll just wait for Tear gold, back, and grab it. The sooner you have it, the sooner you can start spamming spells; a great boon for Xayah.

iiGazeiiSep 17, 20191 votes

Manamune is generally taken by Ezreal Kaisa Kayle because they are hybrid champions that can continue to build mana and/or love on-hit effects. They don't need crit to scale.