Enemy team has Jarvan, guess I'll just repeatedly get dived from 100% under my turret

Yenn·Sep 28, 2017·3 votes·291 views

Really enjoy my immobile caster being ulted under my turret from 1500 range.

Why isn't anything being done about this, again?

8 Comments

Nik NikersonSep 28, 20172 votes

You know they have a Jarvan, save flash.

YennSep 28, 20174 votes

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You know they have a Jarvan, save flash.

Please research the cooldown on both Flash and Jarvan's ult, then get back to me with your findings

z63XnLCMwXSep 28, 20171 votes

You're doing something wrong. A lot of immobile casters are able to farm without interaction from J4. The only way he has a 1.5k range gap closer is if he combines his flag dash + his ult which means both his E and Q are on CD by the time he jumps on you. His R + AA + AA rest + AA combo isn't enough to burst down a mage if the mage played and build right.

YennSep 28, 20171 votes

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You're doing something wrong. A lot of immobile casters are able to farm without interaction from J4. The only way he has a 1.5k range gap closer is if he combines his flag dash + his ult which means both his E and Q are on CD by the time he jumps on you. His R + AA + AA rest + AA combo isn't enough to burst down a mage if the mage played and build right.

Dash is 860 range, ult is 650 range. It's actually 1510. Check your numbers before you post.

The point is that you can no longer kite, which immobile casters are contingent upon, and it's not Jarvan killing you, it's the enemy mid. Who you can't get away from.

z63XnLCMwXSep 29, 20171 votes

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Dash is 860 range, ult is 650 range. It's actually 1510. Check your numbers before you post.

The point is that you can no longer kite, which immobile casters are contingent upon, and it's not Jarvan killing you, it's the enemy mid. Who you can't get away from.

You obviously can't read. I said the only way he has that range is if he chains gap closer. What you're bitching about is a 2v1 scenario where he traps you inside the ult while their mid kills you. No fucking shit they're going to win a 2v1. You expect a 2v1 to be fair?

YennSep 29, 20171 votes

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You obviously can't read. I said the only way he has that range is if he chains gap closer. What you're bitching about is a 2v1 scenario where he traps you inside the ult while their mid kills you. No fucking shit they're going to win a 2v1. You expect a 2v1 to be fair?

I expect to have some room to outplay the 2v1, or play safely/ward for him. Not have Jarvan run down middle lane at 450 MS and get an unavoidable engage on me from the fog while I'm under my turret.

It would be fine if it were ground targeted and had counter play, but it's not and doesn't, and that's the problem. He clicks me and I'm outplayed. There's nothing I can react to, or anything I can do to stop it.

Friendly RamSep 29, 20171 votes

they nerfed his shield because they still wanted him to do damage. besides if jarman is targeting the immobile champs that means you can grab zhonyas right?

YennSep 29, 20171 votes

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they nerfed his shield because they still wanted him to do damage. besides if jarman is targeting the immobile champs that means you can grab zhonyas right?

You don't have a Zhonya at level 6.