Literally the only way to win the game, is camp bot lane. It got to the point where as a top laner I don't even want my jungler to ever come top lane, even if we are getting free kills, it's irrelevant, because we are not gonna out carry the botlane. Please next season allow other roles to have carry potential aswell, because right now, it's pretty much which ever adc is ahead wins the game, everything else is irrelevant.
Xenomancers5 votesThe hardest actual game carries I see right now are mids that roam. Talon/Zed/Fizz can get to the point where they can just kill at will mid game and it's over at that point.
DuskDaUmbreon2 votesWell. Then you'll need only one person in botlane, and there'd have to be a shift from botlane pit's priority to toplane pit's priority.
Botlane will always be the most relevant so long as 40% of the team is there, unless marksmen and supports become irrelevant. The simple way the team is laid out (tanks in top, burst/roam in mid, two in bot) guarantees this. Mid will always have the easiest time if they roam bot, and that means that there's 60% of the team automatically affected by it.
So. Get supports or marksmen out of botlane, and move them somewhere else, and you'll see the meta shift away from botlane.
PrinceOfStorms2 votesIf we nerf ADCs to the point where they're useless until 40 minutes, we'll get actually interesting picks bot like Ziggs instead of yet another reskinned ADC whose play pattern is almost exactly like every other ADC.
IcyPepper1 votesI just want the ADC+Support roles to be divorced, and bot lane to be opened up.
I mean my school was giving out bands yesterday and they said "top," "mid," "jungle," "support," and "adc." One of those is not a position.
Kaìju3 votesAnswer. How do you make a mage that scales off gold more than levels?
IcyPepper1 votesI'm not a game developer, I'm just a gamer making a wish that may never happen.
If I were to spitball with self-awareness that my ideas mean shit, I might come up with a few ideas. Maybe a dps mage with good cooldowns and scalings, but shitty bases. Or maybe a mage-Kalista who does more damage with allies, or an anti-siege mage who specializes in bunkering down.
Innovating, if I recall correctly, is identifying a problem and/or a desire that seems impossible and making it reality. Yeah, my wish sounds stupid, but the concept of airplanes flying was laughable until two brothers proved it. I'm going to hold out hope that maybe it'll happen, but I'm not in a position to make it reality.
Kaìju1 votesI would love mages bot as an ADC main, and you have a few okay ideas. Honestly I really want more champions that interact with towers.
But I think you would need to make a manaless mage with ADC range on spells and low cooldowns with really gated spikes.
PrinceOfStorms1 votesAnswer: Nerf ADCs so that they scale off of gold just as well as mages. Now it doesn't matter that mages don't scale as well with gold as they do with levels, because there's no champion class that does that.
The way to do this is to gut ADC itemization.
Kaìju2 votesBut wouldn't that force ADCs out of the game totally since they can't do anything until about six items but games don't go that long?
im4smoore1 votesIt's also worth noting that in the beginning of Season 7 after the Assassin Roster rework, there was a sentiment that ADCs/Marksmen in general were useless. Of course this wasn't totally true, but the squishy and low mobility champions found it difficult to have impact in a meta dominated by assassins that would constantly instantly kill them. So this definitely hasn't been a season long issue, although I will agree that crit-based marksman have really risen into power right now.
Bladerunner77771 votesNerf
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