Ignite: A) Ignore mr/armor since it is true damage. B) Hard counter summoners heal, since A) Will give grievous wounds, and B) It damage naturally outescales it. C) Hard counters heavy sustain champions, such as mundo, WW, swain because of the grievous wounds. D) Barrier will only get one tick of its duration. E) Reveal invisible enemies. F) Interrupts recall. Why so powerful?
Akeydel2 votesA) It is easily stopped by any type of shield. The true damage is to make it reliable, like every other Summoner Spell.
B) Because 
is so popular, its a natural counter. Just like how 
counters 
(theoretically).
C) Again, its a reliable method of countering those champs. makes up for extreme the lack of grievous wound items, but is on such a long cd it can't replace them 100%.
D) should stop two ticks, which is often enough to survive. However, I do think duration should be buffed, to make it more effective.
E) doesn't even reveal stealth, only enemies in the fog of war or a bush. This is just one more perk: a bit arbitrary, but hardly gamebreaking.
F) Every DoT interrupts recall, this just happens to be the only DoT Summoner Spell.
kanacho1 votesThe problem is barrier has no utility that makes it a better choice over heal in hardly any circumstance, especially when your opponents also carry exhaust or something (which isn't stopped by the shield). But heal doesn't really stop that either I guess, but another exhaust does :)
Akeydel1 votesPoor is really neglected and under powered since the changes.
kanacho3 votescombine 
+ = Worthless abilities become a great one :)
Akeydel1 votesRIP 
But on a long summoner-spell-length cd, i think it'd be good.
kanacho1 votesI don't think cleanse removes malzahar's ulti now anyway. Shouldn't be too strong against him, but if it reduced the strength of enemy summoner spell defects even by a bit with a small enough shield to wall some damage, it could be a cool ability to have around with a lot of utility.
Of course since it's single target still has a lot of use in a duo lane, whereas the combo of cleanse barrier is more a single lane kind of thing i would imagine (unless you are wanting to play a safe bot lane I guess with both heal and barriercleanse?)
Akeydel1 votesidk, the tooltip says 'all disables' but i haven't seen it ingame so i can't be sure.
But would still have that burst of speed over barriercleanse so it could still be used in some solo lanes.
Or if people prefer the health over a shield.
Heal AND Barriercleanse would be really tough to kill, but then you've spent BOTH s.s. slots.
kanacho1 votesTrue story, plus taking heal an barriercleanse is only giving you a small buffer window before barriercleanse wears off and the heal from heal gets shredded. Flash might be a better choice for mobility still especially if you get caught in a situation that's not so good.
Marthian1 votesNo Cleanse still does not work on Malzahar or Warwick. Only QSS or specific abilities.
Vistha Kai1 votesOnly specific champion abilities and QSS can remove Malza's ult.
Wumachine2 votesIgnore mr/armor since it is true damage.
Pitiful amount of damage
Hard counters heavy sustain champions, such as mundo, WW, swain because of the grievous wounds.
Yeah, every 5 fucking minutes
Interrupts recall.
Are you fucking stupid?
Reveal invisible enemies.
No. It. Doesn't
Extreme Troller2 voteswell i think now smite is more op than ignite.
BerserkGoldfish1 votesheal counters it though
literally heal turns it off so does cleanse so does qss
Akeydel1 votesIgnite out-damages heal at all levels (because of the healing reduction) and still does ~ 25-240 true damage depending on level. It's just that that tiny amount of damage is usually not enough to make an impact.
Genuwhine1 votestake heal laugh? only used because players believe they can out beat the other/ for lane pressure otherwise 
technically would all be better.
insaiyanbacca1 voteslast i checked it doesnt reveal invis and any form of damage can interrupt recall js
Akeydel1 votesIt doesn't reveal stealth, but it does REVEAL as in, if they run into a bush or something. Small and usually unnoticed power there.
insaiyanbacca1 voteswell yeah red smite does that to and red smite can give a DoT so its not like ignite is the only one that does that
kanacho1 votesWell to be fair, I had a problem with grievous wounds until I realized how ridiculous life steal and regen can be let unchecked. I do think it's powerful (and that's partly due to true damage), but still It's balanced enough to be non-toxic. If it were too weak, then you would just have another case of cleanse where it's hardly ever used :/
Cindikle1 votesA) Ignore mr/armor since it is true damage.
You'd rather it be magic damage and do nothing late game because it doesn't scale?
B) Hard counter summoners heal, since A) Will give grievous wounds, and B) It damage naturally outescales it.
Not really a hard counter, but does weaken it. Heal will still save you from dying to Ignite if they can't follow up. Damage also always outscales defense. Game is meant to work this way. And for a good reason.
C) Hard counters heavy sustain champions, such as mundo, WW, swain because of the grievous wounds.
Get me better options and I'd have no problem with it not having GW.
D) Barrier will only get one tick of its duration.
Time your Barrier for the other damage you're taking that was meant to kill you.
E) Reveal invisible enemies. F) Interrupts recall.
On a scale of 1 to 10 how bored were you when you wrote this?
