@Meddler Evelynn abilities make no sense for an Assassin.

Doseqis·10/21/2017, 11:56:23 PM·9 votes·628 views

This was posted in the gameplay thoughts

> "Hey Meddler, hope your day is going well. Two questions I had about Eve: > 1.) Considering Eve’s struggling with closing the gap between her and her target, is there a reason the balance team prioritized damage buffs to her E instead of buffing her base movespeed or giving a small buff to her E and empowered E? > 2.) Is Eve even an assassin? She honestly plays more like a slightly more bursty skirmisher. She’s not at all bursty in the same way tha Kha’zix or Rengar or Talon are as true assassins? > We think she's closer to an assassin than any other subclass, agree she's got some skirmisher aspects though certainly. We're cautious about giving her too much target access given her permanent camo post 6 and access to hard CC on a basic spell, both of which are not strengths other assassins (who do tend to have significantly better gap closing) have." >

The comment just makes no sense to me when other AP assassins completely destroy the point made in the response, Ahri has 2 second charm that actually does damage, Leblanc has a Snare, Ekko has a stun, Shaco has a fear, Rengar has a Snare.

She just doesn't make sense as a Assassin, she has very little burst if you don't get them at a certain threshold her W gives away her location AKA the only thing letting her get remotely close to someone, Her E is practically melee range and her Ult forces you to go out if you want to actually use it.

In a game where Assassins only draw is their mobility over Burst mages not giving an Assassin any mobility on a basic ability just seems silly

6 Comments

Linna Excel10/22/2017, 12:00:26 AM6 votes

Evelynn's problem is riot overreached on her rework.

Rebonack10/22/2017, 12:13:39 AM6 votes

Eve's Stealth is awful because of her Charm. And her Charm is awful because of her Stealth.

One of the two needs to go away.

DemonBoneJangles10/22/2017, 12:54:00 AM3 votes

honestly she had the makings of a true assassin before her rework, she was just way too powerful with they ways she could be built, now she has the power but no real way to use it without being deleted once noticed, the charm is nice but if anything it should be the thing to drop out of her kit, she didn't need it maybe if it was a passive effect attached to the first attack from stealth then yeah I could see that being better, but her current gap closer makes any use of her w near useless unless you come up from behind the enemy and risk getting spotted before you can proc the charm

catastrophicSkil10/22/2017, 3:25:20 AM3 votes

Eve feels fine in the PBE with the new runes and certain combinations fix a number of her issues and allow you to opt into quite a bit more movement speed than you are currently able to without losing the AP you currently get with current runes/masteries. Thunder lords and DFT feel really bad on new eve if you cant wait until they are released then thats too bad its better for you to get a feel for her when she is weak than have to buff her for 1 patch then nerf her because she because too strong because of new runes.

On PBE i notice i'm not forced to use flash as an engage tool as often as i do with live servers

Her kit allows her to be more than just an assassin which is what a champion needs to ever be considered good. 1D champions are super niche and rarely see play. with her new kit she doesnt feel utterly useless if behind. the charm is a good anti engage tool and zoning tool the old eve. Also if you are 100% always going for the charm you are playing her wrong the 65% slow is still powerful

The only thing i would like to see is an increased range for her W. Too often i feel like i have to put myself at risk just to cast the spell. It has a lot of counter play i dont see why it would be imbalanced to be able to at least cast to at a reasonable distance. it doesnt even need to be drastic even 200-300 range would be really nice or change the time it takes to reach charm to 2.0 instead of 2.5 or have it scale with levels going down to 2.0 at max rank

Abibyama10/22/2017, 8:00:23 AM3 votes

I mean build full magic pen and you delete squishes and melt tanks cause for some reason she has max hp% and %MR shred

Sun Wu Ryuumoku10/22/2017, 1:22:58 PM1 votes

Its totaly make sense :

  • her damage are real... don't underestimate it
  • her damages are conditionnal as most of assassins
  • u can't give her so much mobility if u want to keep her stealth (aka her identity)

The comment just makes no sense to me when other AP assassins completely destroy the point made in the response, Ahri has 2 second charm that actually does damage, Leblanc has a Snare, Ekko has a stun, Shaco has a fear, Rengar has a Snare.

Ahri & Leblanc aren't listed as assassins anymore... and even without it, their cc tilt most of players, judged as unfair. Ekko stun is way more unreliable than eve charm, same for shaco fear. Rengar isn't an assassin but a Divers (just look at his gameplay), his snare is way more meh than eve cc too.

Eve has same weakness of other assassins, when behind (i mean whole team) its almost gg wp go next