I love doing really well early game and being ahead, then a stealth champ buys duskblade and i lose

Senpanda··2 votes·1,209 views

Pretty cool game design. Get on killstreak early, enemy buys duskblade, gets a free kill with it and now it's impossible to fight them because they just press one button and run away without consequence.

Remind me again what the point of trying is when i spend more time looking at a death timer than the actual game?

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UnboundHades3 votes

Having kills doesn't make you tankier

Someone who is 20/0 with pure damage will die just as fast as someone who went 0/20 and went pure damage

Beatrice falls1 votes

Someone 20/0 with 4 complete items shouldn't also die to someone 0/20 with a single item in one rotation, in a ridiculous amount of time. "Feast or famine" remember ?

Baron Barian2 votes

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Someone 20/0 with 4 complete items shouldn't also die to someone 0/20 with a single item in one rotation, in a ridiculous amount of time. "Feast or famine" remember ?

Build Tabii's or something, or place better wards, or stick with a support or anyone else with cc or peel or heals.

Basically, don't be in the wide open with a big fat target on your head. Either that, or at least build some armor.

Ghazter1 votes

Build armor when the assassin has at least 30 Lethality; build health when they do true damage; build movement speed when they're Talon. It's all the same crap, and none of it works. The fact is, while there's someone like Talon on the map, you can't take objectives or CS just for the fear of him jumping over a wall. You only have 2 wards, max 3, unless you're support, so good luck seeing him before you blink and die.

Baron Barian1 votes

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Build armor when the assassin has at least 30 Lethality; build health when they do true damage; build movement speed when they're Talon. It's all the same crap, and none of it works. The fact is, while there's someone like Talon on the map, you can't take objectives or CS just for the fear of him jumping over a wall. You only have 2 wards, max 3, unless you're support, so good luck seeing him before you blink and die.

That should be enough wards. If you die that easy to Talon, you were clearly being too reckless.

Ghazter1 votes

...Which again brings me back to my point of not being able to do anything. Can't push turrets, can't take drag, can't even CS.

Also, how are you supposed to ward all of Talon's available assault paths with 2 or 3 wards (especially when he has duskblade)? He can go over walls for crying out loud.

Ghazter1 votes

Say that to the guy that's 2 or 3 levels ahead of you with at least duskblade+black cleaver.

Levels factor in a bunch and the thing is, assuming both players had even CS, the 20/0 one will more than likely have more items, therefore being tankier.

RekSai CoffeeCo1 votes

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Say that to the guy that's 2 or 3 levels ahead of you with at least duskblade+black cleaver.

Levels factor in a bunch and the thing is, assuming both players had even CS, the 20/0 one will more than likely have more items, therefore being tankier.

This is what happens when riot messes up the jungle but you knew that. One jungler 2 levels under another one and the other usually 2 levels under solo laner. 20 cs for laners should be equal to 20 cs for junglers but unfornately it isn't.

Ghazter1 votes

If you're always 2 levels below the solo laner you're probably jungling wrong if you've balanced ganking and farming. Besides, jungler items and the champions that are picked jungle typically make up for the gap in levels. I've found myself doing very well, then back and realize I still have stalkers blade and a refillable.

RekSai CoffeeCo1 votes

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If you're always 2 levels below the solo laner you're probably jungling wrong if you've balanced ganking and farming. Besides, jungler items and the champions that are picked jungle typically make up for the gap in levels. I've found myself doing very well, then back and realize I still have stalkers blade and a refillable.

So you must be jungling wrong between 3-10 mins as well as there are points where you are 2 levels below the solo laner as well. See my point yet? Watch some replays even challenger junglers are below solo laners by 2 levels at points in game.

Ghazter1 votes

Around 3 and 10 I'm almost always my top laner's level, sometimes even 1 above for a couple seconds. After the first 5-6 minutes I usually do fall behind a little bit, but I don't think I ever go below 1 level behind a solo lane unless they get fed; maybe people in my games are just not as good as I thought? Maybe I'm just that much better than my rating :}

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