For the love of god, stop flaming your jungler.

Senpanda·Nov 18, 2015·83 votes·8,662 views

Seriously, i don't know why i keep playing jungle, it's my favorite role but dear god, sometimes it makes me want to just break my computer over a chair.

Three games in a row as jax i try to play jungle. Every single time i do though, there's always one or more people that instantly flame me not even ten minutes in because i didn't win them their lane. Just last game i had a zed give up first blood to the enemy jax because he was way over extended. His immediate response to this was "Hey, stupid ass, wanna gank, free kills." so i ignored him and just went back to farming for sated and ganking other lanes. Not even a few minutes later, trynd decided to gang up with zed and both place all the blame on me. Luckily for me though the bot lane was actually nice, never flamed a single person, and were honestly the only reason i didn't leave that much.

Oh, and lets not forget that zed tried to convince everyone he wasn't toxic, even though he flamed the enemy ori in all chat.

I don't know where people got it in their head that just because they lost it's all the junglers fault. The game does not revolve around you, junglers have more to do than just babysit your lane. Other lanes need ganks, and some need to farm for sated.

I'd love to see the people who flame junglers play jungle and then get all the blame dumped on them for like 100 games in a row, just to see how they feel.

Either way bring on the downvotes, flood me with em, i just needed a place to vent all this frustration, because i'm sick and tired of people thinking the game revolves around them

87 Comments

Chespin2013Nov 18, 201521 votes

Junglers don't help win lanes they help secure objectives. If a idiot is gonna die 5 times to a fiora without building any defensive items and not putting any wards no reason to waste time on him. It's better to use it on getting other objectives so that you can close out the game.

xemnas1280Nov 18, 20158 votes

Ok, im an adc main (former support main) and i know we get a bad rep...but i feel SO bad for jungle mains. I am one of the few ppl (at least thats the way it seems) that doesnt blame my jungler/support for my mistakes. I dont understand how someone can overextend, not realize that 3 ppl are comin (thru a warded jungle mind u) and then blame other ppl for their death...

LimitaneiNov 18, 20156 votes

Nobody's going to downvote you. You're correct in saying that it isn't the jungler's responsibility to "win your lane".

Sky Williams would agree with you here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD7VayT4KqQ

ChaosReignsDownNov 18, 20156 votes

I have mixed feelings about this. Few types of junglers out there.

Most dont know how to gank or ping before they come. They use the same route no matter what the lane match ups look like. If it is a Devour jg.. you will see him/her at 20-25 mins, and in this patch when games are lasting like 30 mins thats not cool. They dont watch the mini map to see which lanes are pushed etc..

On the other there are laners who dont know how to freeze lane or push the enemy under turret and ping for ganks.. How is the jg supposed to gank for you when you have them under turret!!? They blame the jungle for dying to a gank and have never dropped a ward any where on the map...

It is iffy.. but as a general rule..FLAMING people will not make them play better or want to help you.. its stupid to think calling the jg all sorts of names and telling him how bad he is will get you a gank lol..

P.S

Shout out to all the great jungles out there though!

ApollogyDec 23, 20151 votes

I used to play Devourer, since I play WW a lot. On-hit WW is incredibly strong, but since nearly every game since Pre-Season ended with a 20 minute surrender or a 31-32 minute close... I had two options:

Ignore my team entirely and farm with a slow clear time champion to get my stacks until the 20 minute mark; or

Participate in fights, secure objectives, ward, gank, etc... and not get sated until 26-30 minutes...

The game was usually over by the time I got sated, so I've switched to an AD WW build, using the Warrior enchantment for a power spike earlier in the game. Coupled with the cooldown reduction from that, and the choice between the Phage or Warhammer (health/rage or CDR) as a second item, I'm able to gank more quickly and more effectively. Black Cleaver as a second weapon over Blade of the Ruined King lets me get some health so I'm not as squishy for as long. It's definitely working.

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wormNov 18, 20154 votes

Here's a suggestion, don't go devourer. Lanes snowball so fast off of one gank and by the time you get your sated the game is practically already over.

Essentially it is your fault

Synx7Nov 19, 20151 votes

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Here's a suggestion, don't go devourer. Lanes snowball so fast off of one gank and by the time you get your sated the game is practically already over.

Essentially it is your fault

Tired of trolls like u

jaymc1130Nov 19, 20152 votes

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Tired of trolls like u

Seriously, in diamond, the troll is considered to be the person who bought sated. Particularly since this patch, but for about the last 4 or 5 months. Sated is a troll item 90% of the time.

Mister PunchesNov 19, 20154 votes

I tend to mute people the very second they start flaming me for not pushing their lane for them.

I already have enough experience to know that if I even talked to those kinds of people in the game, that I would end up going on tilt. I was surrounded by those kinds of people (I won't consider them players or gamers, because they really aren't) in Bronze, and I spent more time capturing objectives and counter jungling rather than in lane pushing for someone.

I main as a Jungle in Ranked, and honestly, there are tons of people who complain about Jungle for no reason from my personal experience. It's either we aren't helping them in lane enough, or we're too much of douchebags for focusing on things like Dragon, or Enemy Red/Blue when the enemy jungler is behind. I notice that I get a lot of the flak from ADCs and overly confident Mids.

DehornNov 19, 20151 votes

im the same way. the second someone starts flaming me for any reason, i reply with one word... mute. done.

EagleashNov 18, 20153 votes

yeah man dont even give your energy to these f4ck boys /mute all

TeCoolMageNov 18, 20153 votes

Junglers are soon to be the newest supports in terms of flaming, since ADCs can now survive so well, supports get more lenience.

Junglers, however, now have to ward to aid the vision game even more than before (lol top and mid once flamed me for warding red buff and dragon instead of rift herald and blue), and despite not being changed in terms of flammability directly, the fact supports need less to be good means everyone else must now look for new roles to flame!

That being said, all roles tend to do something bad, trust me. Supports and Junglers aren't as innocent as most think and ADCs and top laners aren't as toxic as depicted.

Ariel the CruelNov 18, 20153 votes

Flamings will continue, until ganks improve.

NostolgicSkiesNov 18, 20153 votes

as a person who jungles evelynn i find that if u ignore lanes and tell yoru self your job is just to get objectives your being near sighted to your own role. junglers need to show up in lanes even if its to remind the lane hey i am in the game and i can fuck you up so back up. not to mention ganking lanes not only helps secure the lane for your team it also helps mid get out to roam so they arent tied down to holding the lane. it helps top tele and not get punished for doing so. and it helps get your adc out of lane to get dragon easier and at earlier lvl's. telling yourself your job isnt to gank lanes as a jungler only gimps you as a jungler in my opinion

BemaponNov 18, 20153 votes

"Its not MY job to win YOUR lane." Is what I normally respond with.

But also, raging at your jungler is not a good way to make them want to gank for you.

bubeeNov 18, 20152 votes

I agree 100%. Countless times when I was jungler, other lanes would blame me for them being 0/3 and blame me for losing the game for them. What frustrates me the most though, is when I accidentally take a kill or a couple minions from a lane, and they would have a tantrum.

ApollogyDec 23, 20151 votes

I had a Teemo on top lane recently...

I ganked him when I could, albeit a little late... He was doing very well and the other lanes needed help. I pulled my punches so he could secure the kill. I did the same a bit later in a teamfight, letting him get 2 kills I believe. He was so grateful that he told me I'm getting the next one. I told him it's my job to give him the kill, and that I'd be fine without it. The enemy team surrendered before either of us had a chance to fight again.

It's nice that, although there are a lot of times things like what you've describe can happen, the reverse is also possible.

Truly PridefulNov 18, 20152 votes

I thank my jungler for every gank whether or not it results in a kill. All I want from a jungler is random lane appearances to keep the enemy honest and dragon control.

SrirachaLimesNov 19, 20152 votes

As someone who only moderately plays jungle, I agree with you. Every time I see someone blame jungle, it's usually something like this:

0/4 Fiora Top: Wow my stupid Skarner didn't gank and that's why I lost lane!

No, you didn't lose lane because you're jungle didn't gank. That doesn't affect your play style or how well you do against your opponent. You died because of YOU. Even if your jungler didn't gank you at all and just farmed up, that doesn't mean it's his or her fault. You're the one dying, they're not causing you to die.

Why the hell do people think it's the jungler's fault? Yeah, it'd be nice if they ganked and they should gank when they can, but they don't control how you play.

Kal Vas FlamNov 19, 20152 votes

Been jungling mostly since the patch and it is getting hard to give a fuck about my teammates anymore. Just got reported for not single handily carrying my team on my back. Sorry if you can't do something as simple as play passive in lane and keep them pushed to their tower without any wards the whole time. Not my fault you suck.

runedaraNov 19, 20152 votes

When mid does it they lose their blue privilege.

PreymsterNov 19, 20152 votes

It is the junglers job to monopolize on enemy mistakes. This includes but isn't limited to objectives and kills on overextended enemies and counter jungle if your champ is capable of it.

It is everyone else's job to ensure they aren't making those exact mistakes for the enemy jungler to monopolize on. Their mistakes don't equal your lack of skill. The jungle can't easily gank if the lane isn't pushed towards your tower, and they can't dragon early if the lane can't be pressured to back. 99% of my grief whenever I jungle comes from the fact I can't fulfill my role because my team doesn't realize that it is a combined effort to create the conditions where I can make a meaningful impact in that lane.

ApollogyDec 23, 20151 votes

I had to comment to just let you know that I'm upvoting this. :D

Ganking isn't 100% the jungler, it's more of a half and half job that belongs to both the laner and the jungler. So is everything else in the game, it's a team effort.

jaymc1130Nov 19, 20152 votes

Dude, you play in silver. With ridiculous kda's. And with those kda's you can't even manage a 60% win rate. Just looking at your op.gg, coming from a diamond, it's clear you are losing games for your team because you are a non factor in lane phase, essentially making games 4v5. Now is it always a jgs fault? No. In your case is it likely your fault? Yep, without question. It's dead obvious from your stats you are failing early and losing games because of it. It's also bad news for you that you haven't adapted to the snowbally nature of this current patch and how important it is to influence the game early and often from that position. Ever since this patch the other roles are largely unimportant because of the vision changes. If you aren't ganking early and often (for example by the 10th minute I'll have ganked every lane, some multiple times) you are playing the game wrong.

NotClarkolasNov 19, 20151 votes

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Dude, you play in silver. With ridiculous kda's. And with those kda's you can't even manage a 60% win rate. Just looking at your op.gg, coming from a diamond, it's clear you are losing games for your team because you are a non factor in lane phase, essentially making games 4v5. Now is it always a jgs fault? No. In your case is it likely your fault? Yep, without question. It's dead obvious from your stats you are failing early and losing games because of it. It's also bad news for you that you haven't adapted to the snowbally nature of this current patch and how important it is to influence the game early and often from that position. Ever since this patch the other roles are largely unimportant because of the vision changes. If you aren't ganking early and often (for example by the 10th minute I'll have ganked every lane, some multiple times) you are playing the game wrong.

People just dont get it

jaymc1130Nov 19, 20151 votes

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People just dont get it

No they do not. Looking at his kda out of the jungle he oughta be capable of getting to at least plat 1 inside of 70 total ranked games and he's not even close. Understanding how to play the game at a strategic and tactical level is more important to winning and one'a rank than understanding how to play a champ well mechanically. What we see in this post is classic low level player syndrome, where the lack of game play knowledge expresses itself as frustration with teammates when the biggest portion of the blame likely rests on the OP for not interacting with his team for the first third of every game.

ApollogyDec 23, 20151 votes

TL;DR: I ramble on a lot. How can I get my teammates to purchase vision wards more often?

Hey... As a jungler who struggles to get teams to place pink wards... What would you suggest? With vision being much more limited lately... I'm just really sad to see that even supports aren't buying pinks...

I'm really tempted to just include a sightstone in every build regardless of the situation, because vision is probably going to be more important than damage or resistances. And a sightstone does make me more healthy anyway.

Last 4 games I played, there were 0 deaths. That's because I play a mechanically simple champion, and the only way I've been able to get better at playing this champ, is by learning how to better play league as a whole. I make a lot of good decisions, but running into people who don't make good decisions, and even when asked nicely, won't change... It'd be an understatement to say it's frustrating. Luckily I don't get angry, but it's very irksome.

I'm not blaming my team at all... A lot of times, as the jungler, I'll end up being the team leader, and I'll guide the other 4 with use of pings and such. When my flash and smite are down, and someone tells me to ward the dragon... I already know the entire other team is there, and my team is scattered, so we won't be able to test it, I don't even have a ward charge, and then 5 seconds later the dragon is slain... I don't really know what to do or say when I've got a team of people like that.

Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you get a Yi top lane that's got the enemy jungler in his bush, and he keeps pushing forward instead of retreating. His health is nearly 0 because he just lot a battle to his opposing laner, but he refuses to retreat. I've got to run over and waste my time to scare off the enemy jungler so he isn't ganked and killed. Or when, somehow, two games in a row you get the same guy playing top lane, pushing his lane to the enemy turret, and refusing to ward his river bush at all... He got ganked roughly half a dozen times each game. He died each time. I'd go out of my way to ward for him.

I know there's that whole, "low elo blames their team and not themselves for defeats"... Yeah definitely, sometimes I do that. Sometimes it is my fault. But how can I get around those sorts of situations? I feel powerless when someone is making a bad decision, and won't listen to anyone else.

Never outright flamed anyone. I am usually very friendly in chat. I'm sure some people don't like being told what to do... I don't like it when someone tells me I'm playing wrong or building wrong... Like when the enemy poppy throws me over two walls, and my whole team looks at me, and then yells at me for running away and letting them die. People are so quick to point fingers... without knowing half of what I'm doing while I'm playing. Mid lane is angry at me for afk farming and not participating in fights, except I just respawned because I died in a fight, and before that I had fought in two battles, back to back. I'm sorry I'm not participating in the fights you're in, but that doesn't mean I'm not doing anything.

Doing what I can to learn the game and get better, but the biggest thing I want to accomplish right now is finding a way to get my lanes to buy pinks before getting ganked. If the enemy jungler is a Rengar, and you let your bot lane know where he's going to gank them from and that they'll need a pink ward there to be safe... then your bot lane ignores the advice and proceeds to get ganked from that bush 4 times over the course of the time... I only have 1 pink ward to place, and where I had been placing it prevented mid lane from being ganked by rengar multiple times, because mid lane wasn't placing a pink either. Sometimes I'm lucky enough to play with a Gold ranked friend of mine who does buy 1-2 pinks in a game. Most Gold ranked players I've come across don't buy pinks, though

jaymc1130Dec 23, 20151 votes

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Most Gold ranked players I've come across don't buy pinks, though

Buy em for em. Lol. I spend most of my wards warding for the lanes I just ganked or whenever I pass by. Every time I run past mid lane I drop a ward in his river bush. Ever time I gank top I try to leave a pink in his river bush unless I know I'm going to need it in a contested objective area like dragon in the next minute or two. Every time I stop by bot lane I leave em a pink in the tri. No matter what you cant force your teammates to ward right, you can only ask them to. Best bet is to just ward for them. Low level play is a lot like that. You gotta do everything for your teammates because they wont do it for themselves.

ApollogyDec 23, 20151 votes

Well, green wards were removed. My pinks usually last 10-20 minutes, depending on if it's covering the river or covering my jungle. (If the enemy likes to enter my red jungle a lot, I'll put the pink on the backside of red buff). As WW, I only take one health pot with me, so I can buy a pink at the start of the game. I usually place that pink at the entrance to the enemy's blue jungle, where there's a bush. At the very corner of that, most of the river is covered.

And yes, I do place wards when I'm near one of my lanes to help them out. I'm really really considering getting that Sightstone, though. Looking at the jungle item that has a ward placing ability, I might do that too. The wards last longer, and are refilled when you're at the shop. Chilling smite's slow isn't a very good slow, and it's damage isn't spectacular either.

What would you suggest? Weakening myself by investing 800 gold into a Sightstone is worrisome, because then every play I'm involved in, I'll be less effective... But at the same time, I won't need to be everywhere on the map at once, because our laners will have enough vision to avoid ganks.

What's really bad is a mid laner who criticizes you the whole game while he's repeatedly dying... At the end of the game you're just going over the statistics and noticed he placed 1 ward the entire game. Just one of those moments, where you just look down at your keyboard, and question life... item 3070

TransgressorNov 19, 20152 votes

For the love of god, how about you junglers start thinking you're not exempt from having your bullshit called out, whenver you fuck up so hard the game snowballs out of control?

When you come for a gank, and I ping you to fall back 5 times AND YOU STILL GO IN with mana enough just for your CC spell, don't expect any fucking help.

Basically, get good at the game and learn to acknowledge your own responsibility.

ApollogyDec 23, 20151 votes

Agreed, some junglers are just trash...

But, what about those moments when I've been ganking lanes non-stop and my mana is completely gone, my smite is on cooldown, my ult is on cooldown, my flash is even burnt, and I'm just killing a jungle camp before backing to get the items I need for the next stage of the game...

And then I've got a laner who overextends, gets ganked, engages instead of retreats, and just outright gets decimated... He blames me. I didn't come to help. I didn't counter gank. I didn't take all of the hits for him. Well, one thing is certain, you died so quickly, it'd have been impossible to reach you in time. And naturally, my condition is completely unimportant, and I'm supposed to blow my ultimate that's got another minute left on the cooldown, using the mana that I don't have, to save him because he isn't warding and wants to 1v2...

TL;DR: If my mana is low and my stuff is on cooldown, don't scream at me for a gank. I feel your pain, a jungler shouldn't gank if he/she knows it's not going to be successful. But a laner shouldn't ask for a gank and get angry at a jungler who doesn't believe it'll work. There's a lot involved with ganking a lane... And half of the job belongs to the laner.

TransgressorDec 23, 20151 votes

Thankfully we've found a silver lining.

But that gets us no upvotes in the NA Boards; you're either trashing junglers or laners, logic and cooperation has no room.

HayRossDec 18, 20152 votes

A while ago I was playing Warwick jungle and bot lane blamed me for losing their lane, even though both the other lanes needed as much help as they did.

It was most clearly my fault that bot lane was lost and not that we had a Kindred for a support

Only Play DariusNov 18, 20151 votes

This is the problem with early teamfight meta. Genuinely bad players who used to lose games because they were incompetent in lane are suddenly winning more games because they have junglers/toplaners/midlaners roaming or teleporting very early and winning lane for them regardless. Even if their W/L still remains negative, they become accustomed to getting carried so don't bother analyzing their mistakes or learning how to go even let alone win their lane. So when they lose lane, it's YOUR fault for not winning it for them.

Reminds me of a Yasuo game (hate me all you want) I had yesterday where I was laning against an AP Ezreal. I had him beat in lane so Leona abandoned her ADC to camp mid and prevent me from getting more kills off him, and even helped him succesfully turret dive me. What does he say in post game? "Yasuo you're trash go play a skillful champion" (probably true lol) and ”GG garbage botlane cost me the game" (after Leona abandoned her ADC to camp his feeding ass and prevent me from getting more kills off of him).

Moral of the story? Don't bend over backwards to try and win lane for genuinely shitty players, they don't appreciate it and it probably won't win you the game in the end. And yes, he did have the pulsefire skin.

GenghisEmoNov 18, 20151 votes

The only time i blame the Jungler, is when they are clearly, clearly at fault and/or tilting (and usually if they are at fault, it is because, well, they are tilting XD). Otherwise, i will defend my jungler.

Junglers have it hard. They got to flank, reinforce, take dragon, ward, clear enemy wards, farm their jg, or give some farm in jg to ally that could be slightly behind or is getting a lead, help push down towers if possible or push wave into enemy turret making enemy lose cs, save allies, etc.

But if you are literally going for blue when allies are clearly positioned elsewhere looking for an out of position enemy, then there is something wrong there that the jungler should reconsider. Especially, if that choice clearly leads to the Jungler's death. Jungler then complain about them dying, while allies go after the enemy carries who positioned poorly leading to a 4 for 2 (in favor of allied team). Only to still complain XD.

Then, and only then, will i have to speak my mind to the jungler, typically saying "you fault, learn to position better, ward, and take a break after this match, since you are clearly tilting".

And it Also happens to Supports

If the support is "feeding" because the ADC can't position well, that the supp literally gives their life to deny a shutdown (which equals extra gold for the enemy if it happens), then please shut up, and position better. You can clearly tell ADCs tilt or are on a losing streak when they complain after their lives were saved.

ApollogyDec 23, 20151 votes

Yeah, a lot of the time I'll just outright die to save an ally. It's better they can either get back to grabbing more CS, or don't get shutdown, etc...

Even as a jungler, I pull punches so my laners get the kills, and I'll peel and die so they don't. (Or I'll die so both of us don't die).

GenghisEmoDec 25, 20151 votes

The mark of a good Jg-er.

Captainn GinyuNov 19, 20151 votes

i still think the jungle should AT LEAST help a losing lane or attempt to help a losing lane

ZettoNov 19, 20151 votes

Tbh bro from my experience once someone goes 0/3 that's pretty much it regarding that lane. Ganking a lane where the enemy is up by 3 kills, where your laner is most likely massively behind, is near suicide in most cases, especially if the enemy is a particularly broken champion, like darius or fiora. It doesn't mean you should leave them to die, but in general the best solution is to tell them to ward and play safe so they don't feed anymore.

ApollogyDec 23, 20151 votes

Exactly... As a jungler, your time is better spent trying to get another lane that's winning/even to snowball to counteract the lost lane.

Sometimes you've just cut your losses, and hopefully your laner will change their play style a bit and not die another 6 times... Maybe if I can focus on getting mid lane fed up, we can gank your lane together and turn the tables...

Talk to ze handNov 19, 20151 votes

on the other hand though(cause the other side must be heard)when someone is losing his lane and is already 0-2,0-3 try to be a dear and help him on your way to the camps.so many times ive seen the top or the mid laners struggle because of a bad matchup or enemy player superiority and the jungler doesnt even move his finger to do anything,not realising that the enemy laner if you let him take all the advantage he can will be massive and yours will be severely underfarmed.what you gonna say next?im here only for the objectives?most of the time all i hear is report x for feeding the enemy even if he is 0-2 and the real difference is on cs he is being denied.

i agree on the flame part though no need for anyone to get upset.

ApollogyDec 23, 20151 votes

A lot of times if someone loses a lane before you're available to gank it, there isn't much you can do to help. If a lane is 0-2 or 0-3 early in the game...

Well, I'll suggest you stay closer to your tower, ward well, purchase a pink, and just play safe. My time is spent helping other lanes win or prevent any of them from losing as well. If top lane loses, but I can support mid and bot well enough that they win and we secure a dragon...

Hey, maybe after I use that extra gold I'm getting to get decent items I can swing around top lane and stop the other guy from snowballing or at least push him out of the lane/pressure him so you can get CS... Usually though, when a lane is 0-3, and I attempt a gank, my laner gets a little full of himself, and doesn't realize his limited capabilities... It sucks when he dies and you end up securing the kill... I'd rather have given the kill to you.

And sometimes, I'm just always on the other side of the map when your lane is in a good place to be ganked, and when I'm near your lane, the enemy laner is missing or you're pushed against his tower and there's nothing I can do. I can't count how many times I've been criticized for not ganking enough, when the timing or positioning is just never right for me to gank. I'd rather spend all of my time ganking every lane, but I need laners to help set it up and ward properly. It's a really complicated matter, this ganking thing, and there are so many factors that go into it...

There are many junglers out there who aren't that great, or that don't play the role that much. But there's also many that are pretty decent, but are blamed for things entirely out of their control. I've seen my opposing jungler get flamed by his/her team for absolutely no reason. I'd see them doing incredible, making amazing ganks, but their team is unhappy because their team is losing and he isn't everywhere at once.

You know what I want for christmas? item 2043

Especially now that green wards cannot be purchased (what difference does that make since nobody bought them anyway), those pink wards are all the more important. Buy pinks and put them in the locations that can either help cover your team's jungle, cover areas you might be ganked from but aren't as common... (Top and bottom lanes have the tri-bush, mid lane has a couple bushes that can actually cover a good portion of the river). Those pink wards also let your own jungler know the enemy doesn't have those bushes warded. I've had pinks last whole games before, 1 pink, but prevent half a dozen ganks from the vision it provided...

4n3LG8tf3QNov 20, 20151 votes

I'm a jungle main with thousands of games in the role. Let me just be straight up and tell you, it's not your job to win someones lane for them but it totally is part of your job to make sure they don't lose lane either. Ganking is the most vital part of your job. Do your job or maybe play a different role?

You kind of sound like a whiny brat who is mad his mom told him the way he was doing his homework was wrong. "so I ignored him and just went back to farming sated and ganking other lanes" Right there, you blatantly admitted that you didn't like what he said so you decided he wasn't getting ganks. Regardless of what someone says to you, that does not eliminate part of your job.

Press mute if it bothers you but DO YOUR JOB. Do the most essential part of the role you chose to take. Not ganking as a jungler is like not warding as a support, not csing as an adc, not roaming as a mid, or not making teleport plays as a top laner. Those are essential parts to being good at your role. If you choose not to do them, then yeah, some people are going to call you bad.

GamblerOfLivesDec 23, 20151 votes

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I'm a jungle main with thousands of games in the role. Let me just be straight up and tell you, it's not your job to win someones lane for them but it totally is part of your job to make sure they don't lose lane either. Ganking is the most vital part of your job. Do your job or maybe play a different role?

You kind of sound like a whiny brat who is mad his mom told him the way he was doing his homework was wrong. "so I ignored him and just went back to farming sated and ganking other lanes" Right there, you blatantly admitted that you didn't like what he said so you decided he wasn't getting ganks. Regardless of what someone says to you, that does not eliminate part of your job.

Press mute if it bothers you but DO YOUR JOB. Do the most essential part of the role you chose to take. Not ganking as a jungler is like not warding as a support, not csing as an adc, not roaming as a mid, or not making teleport plays as a top laner. Those are essential parts to being good at your role. If you choose not to do them, then yeah, some people are going to call you bad.

Jungle role is apply pressure on the map:)..if you fail this, you are bad jungler..and diamond sucks

Supreme Senpai69Nov 20, 20151 votes

My ADC literally tried to steal my Gromp last game. They didn't leash it, mind you, they came over and simply last hit it. Then of course, got mad when I didn't come gank for them.

Supports and Junglers get all the flack tbh.

Darkslayer85Dec 18, 20151 votes

I literally burst into tears during the game I just played... I don't even know if I want to keep playing League at this point...

1sam700Jun 2, 20161 votes

id liked to say this guys right but i feel bad cause i do the exact thing but i only do it when the jg tries to gank then leaves then 5 seconds later i get killed and theyre still there doing skuttle not even putting any effort into helping me live

Pandemic PunchJun 2, 20161 votes

That is just flaming

Garr10Nov 10, 20171 votes

This is VERY true. Even my own friends flame me. My friends were a Lux Rengar bot lane, but they kept shoving the wave into the turret and forcing the enemy bot lane under the turret. My friends proceed to dive multiple times and feed. They then flame me for not ganking. I ask them, "Do you want me to die while diving the turret?" And all they do is tell me to shut up. The point of a jgler is to strengthen winning lanes, not gank feeding lanes. Jglers are there to help take turrets, dragon, herald, baron, not constantly gank.