why does Camille jumping 10 feet in the air make her immune to damage but Rek'sai's ult is negated by a dash? its a point and click that gets treated like a skillshot, riot hello? can you at least make it a skillshot so i can do something about it? no? neat.
KmSneaky8 votesCamille's ult doesn't do damage, it just buffs her autos in the area and prevents the opponent from getting away, rek'sai's ult is strong tbh, she lacks a good passive imo, not a good ult. Though I could agree rek's ult feels more like an assassin ult than a bruiser, it feels a bit out of place.
DeadUnborn2 votesa better compraision would be WW's ult, which is omnidirectional, CCs and heals you up. Rek sai can avoid damage with her ult, but because it is so telegraphed it often becomes very easy to dodge
KmSneaky1 votesHonestly since I'm a mage player, I don't think rek's ult is easy to dodge, it's actually possible only with flash, or zhonya's which is in most cases a bad use of gold, blame the mobility creep in champion kits mate, the ult design in itself is strong already, in s2 it wouldve been labelled as cancerous :X
Happy Love Pile3 votesZhonya's a bad use of gold? Are we playing the same game?
KmSneaky1 votesWhen you're a non-assassin mage main, it is, that's why I've been stacking ninja tabis and IBG on characters like Viktor, twisted Fate and even karma sometimes for 3 seasons now. AD assassins and bruisers are just too effective for zhonya's to be worth it, sure you can use it to dodge let's say zed's ult, but once mid-late game comes, the cooldown is so ridiculous you can actually use it every 3 or 4 R timings. The point is, if you're an immobile champion, zhonya's is not helping as much as lt should, Riot should look at Smite aegis for example, it's much more useful and balanced at the same time while being a summoner spell, not an item.
Happy Love Pile1 votesNo, Zhonya's is a fine item. It has a good build path, with all 3 components being super useful. Tabis + Zhonya's alone is enough to negate a shit ton of lethality.
DuskDaUmbreon3 votesYou need a rather long dash to get out of it, no?
Also, logically it's because Camille's ult traps them there, while Rek'sai is literally just throwing herself at them slashing somewhat mindlessly. Rek'sai's ult is, in effect, just a Rengar leap with a knockup.
Speak or Die20 votesYou need a rather long dash to get out of it, no?
Also, logically it's because Camille's ult traps them there, while Rek'sai is literally just throwing herself at them slashing somewhat mindlessly. Rek'sai's ult is, in effect, just a Rengar leap with a knockup.
Knockup?? Reksai doesnt have a knockup on her ult?
DuskDaUmbreon2 votesDoesn't it have a knockup...?
...Nvm, that's her other thingy.
So it's basically just a Rengar pounce but more damage. My bad.
DeadUnborn3 votesthing is Rek Sai's ult scales on missing health, so if you are behind and get targets low her ult is worthless on top of being unreliable
Z3Sleeper16 votesShe just doesn't have the kit to support this new ult. She isn't all that great a Diver. She's more like a psuedo-assassin just looking for picks on the side and occasionally flashing in to knock people up.
Once she ults if literally anyone is alive she's basically dead and if her target has a dash or flash up she's gonna miss and die anyway. Her kit just isn't made to survive in the middle of the enemy team.
She's not a bad champion by any means, she's doing decent right now. But her ult just doesn't fit her kit.
Either fix the ult or fix her kit. Maybe start with AN ACTUAL PASSIVE that lets her survive in the middle of a fight.
Kaìju1 votesHonestly I do better on her playing her as a drain tank split pusher top. Max Q against squishy enemies and E against tanky ones. First buy Ravenous Hydra, tank item, Deaths Dance, tank item, Blood Thirster, tank boots or attack speed boots depends on you. Her tunnels and Tremor Sense give her a good safety next to get out when she starts to get collapsed on but she has pretty spamable wave clear in her Q. Also Irelia is cancer but Rek dumps on her in lane cause every time she uses W just E her.
You play the lane by spamming Q and W to just get full rage, poke with Q and heal, get full rage, do it again. Her heal is weak yes but with life steal combined it does start to add up when you do it three four times.
Z3Sleeper1 votesSounds cool as a counterpick to some champions. What realistically what do you do against: 
?
Are there only certain champions you play this against or are you fine with picking this before the enemy top picks? What do you do against lane bullies like Renekton?
Kaìju1 votesI have not played her against Viktor yet but I imagine you can first buy Merc Scim in place of Blood Thirster to remove his stun and use it to sustain through his damage. Teemo you first buy Spirit Visige I find, and against GP you get Cleaver for the AD and CDR so you can spam Q to poke him down and make him use his mana on heal rather than Q you into the dirt.
Against Renek I do the same deal, max Q, maybe rush Deaths Dance for the heal and CDR and just try to stay out of his range. She farms pretty well under tower since you can Q the wave to clear most of it and if you get dived your defense is to knock them up, run away, let tower mash them, then use the R if its up to make them flash or just die since they dived someone with both hard CC and an execute.
wolvius2 votesShe just doesn't have the kit to support this new ult. She isn't all that great a Diver. She's more like a psuedo-assassin just looking for picks on the side and occasionally flashing in to knock people up.
Once she ults if literally anyone is alive she's basically dead and if her target has a dash or flash up she's gonna miss and die anyway. Her kit just isn't made to survive in the middle of the enemy team.
She's not a bad champion by any means, she's doing decent right now. But her ult just doesn't fit her kit.
Either fix the ult or fix her kit. Maybe start with AN ACTUAL PASSIVE that lets her survive in the middle of a fight.
I agree with everything you just said, another thing they could do if they want her as diver is to remove the only one person can be knocked up from W, there is no reason to use it in a teamfight as you will die for a measly one person knock-up. One change I would love them to do to the ult though is be able to chose the direction you emerge from the ground ( or fly towards).
Z3Sleeper1 votesI don't even know why the single knockup was even a thing. It's not like it's the easiest thing in the world to knock multiple people up with Rek'Sai outside of flashing in. E is so slow and telegraphed that hitting multiple people that way is extremely unrealistic.
And that'd definitely be a cool change for the ult. I'd recommend something similar to Kayn's ult. You press R, once you go under ur camera snaps and locks onto the target champion and you see a ring around them. Clicking anywhere on the ring will make you attack from that direction.
Basically Kayn ult but instead of coming out towards where you clicked you attack from where you clicked.
Also letting you choose when you come out would alleviate a ton of the pain from how telegraphed and easy it is to time a dash to completely negate it.
wolvius1 votesI don't even know why the single knockup was even a thing. It's not like it's the easiest thing in the world to knock multiple people up with Rek'Sai outside of flashing in. E is so slow and telegraphed that hitting multiple people that way is extremely unrealistic.
And that'd definitely be a cool change for the ult. I'd recommend something similar to Kayn's ult. You press R, once you go under ur camera snaps and locks onto the target champion and you see a ring around them. Clicking anywhere on the ring will make you attack from that direction.
Basically Kayn ult but instead of coming out towards where you clicked you attack from where you clicked.
Also letting you choose when you come out would alleviate a ton of the pain from how telegraphed and easy it is to time a dash to completely negate it.
Yeah exactly like kayn's ult, I was going to mention it but couldn't remember if when the time elapsed he erupted to where your mouse was pointing so I left it out. I't would also make it safer/offer more outplay potential using it as you wouldn't randomly end up on the opposite side of the enemy team as your allies, or however it choose's direction currently after ulting.
The choose when to emerge would probably have to be like akali R, with having to wait a static time before being able to recast or in this case burst from the ground. Probably like between 1 second after ulting and 1.5 seconds where it ends.
Monstermushmush1 votesDoesn't it have a knockup...?
...Nvm, that's her other thingy.
So it's basically just a Rengar pounce but more damage. My bad.
No, Rengar's auto damage will still go through even if they flash away. An example is Blitzcrank E. If they flash away, they will still get knocked up if his E animation is finished.
veigarbage can2 votesDoesn't it have a knockup...?
...Nvm, that's her other thingy.
So it's basically just a Rengar pounce but more damage. My bad.
It's a Rengar dash that you have to mark someone first, there's a 1.5 second delay and a loud screech, and can miss.
Sur Potato8 voteswith even a little bit of distance a Vayne dash can get out of it. its really dumb.
whizkid751 votesWeird. Never seen anything dodge her ult BESIDES blinks, which makes sense. But I'll take your word for it.
Z3Sleeper4 votesNo you don't, you can dodge it with Lucian's E. Almost every dash in the game can.
Idk if Graves/Vayne/Aatrox can tho.
yisrahyah1 votesYou need a rather long dash to get out of it, no?
Also, logically it's because Camille's ult traps them there, while Rek'sai is literally just throwing herself at them slashing somewhat mindlessly. Rek'sai's ult is, in effect, just a Rengar leap with a knockup.
uh no you dont.. Ezreals blink will suffice.. his simple blink negates Rek'Sai's entire ult. ty
Hěro3 votesIt's a double edged sword. Rek'Sai players can get a lot of flashes from the enemie team and kills if they don't have it, but can also die easily in teamfights when you don't have your tunnel and/or flash depending on the situation. But to be fair, her ult CD is not high, so you can try it again for a sure hit.
And one more thing: If you couldn't dodge her ult, you would be dead (almost) everytime when she's near you. Especially with the new Dark Harvest. If she has 20 DH stacks and builds mostly AD (Warriors, BC, GA/Stormrazor,...) she can execute an ADC with 45% health with one ult. Heck, it even works with her max fury E sometimes.
Gilgayu1 votesIt's a double edged sword. Rek'Sai players can get a lot of flashes from the enemie team and kills if they don't have it, but can also die easily in teamfights when you don't have your tunnel and/or flash depending on the situation. But to be fair, her ult CD is not high, so you can try it again for a sure hit.
And one more thing: If you couldn't dodge her ult, you would be dead (almost) everytime when she's near you. Especially with the new Dark Harvest. If she has 20 DH stacks and builds mostly AD (Warriors, BC, GA/Stormrazor,...) she can execute an ADC with 45% health with one ult. Heck, it even works with her max fury E sometimes.
If she is going full ad... You should really be able to kill her before she kills you especially if you have cc/long range
KingBlackthorn13 votesRek'sai is in a good spot right now and you hardly ever see the character played. She is just fine in her current state and needs no nerfs.
DeadUnborn2 votesAlso WW is way more sticky than rek sai, does about the same damage but can tank consistently; WW's ult is justa better version of Rek'Sai's tho. Also WW can scout with w just like Rek sia can with her passive. The only difference is that rek sai has faster clears with her Q and tunnel and she is a better counter jungler. Also her early ganks are better but she loses so much health now early that it isn't always worth it
I still play her for fun but had to switch to WW for ranked just because of how unreliable she is and how much she falls after mid game. The sad part is Riot made her this way un purpose. They wanted her to be unreliable so that she woudn't see competitive play again, and they completely gutted her for that reason since she is not popular in regular play
Happy Love Pile1 votesTheir ultis aren't similar at all. WW's is a sustain lockdown, where as Rek'Sai's is a burst execute. WW's can be QSS'd, but rek'sai's doesn't cc at all. WW's is dodgeable without a dash/flash, Rek'Sai's isn't.
DeadUnborn1 votesok now lets list the similarities.
Both let you dash large distances to deal damage to an opponent. If you go and read my previous comment you will notice I was saying WWs ult is just really a better version of reksai's
Less telegraphed can be used to escape provides CC and consistent damage Doesn't require you to damage a champion to use it
Happy Love Pile1 votesThat's just an over generalization.
Zed R is just a better WW ult.
It does base damage + additional damage He can go back to it Less telegraphed Can't be dodged Doesn't require you to damage a champion to use it
This sounds a lot like LB W as well.
DeadUnborn1 votesI was gonna argue with you but then I read your example and realized it would be a waste of time
Happy Love Pile1 votesIt's the same as your example; an over generalization which only serves the purpose of making both abilities sound the same.
rayzo2 votes130 dmg heal at level 18 lul
L4 Ardent Girl1 votesAre you really comparing Camille to Rek sai? Rek sai has been bad like the whole of season 8 while Camille has been on the top tier of jungle/top the entire season
BLIGHTBRINGER1 votesI actually really like Camille's Personality and her Theme but I absolutely hate playing against her.
Her E removes punishment for misspositioning.
Her R is just an excuse if she misses everything, basically forcing you to fight her even if you have no chance because of how well designed her Q is.
As for Rek'Sai, she's got a lot of issues in a lot of areas and it would be best to go over what she is suppose to be.
A Diver? A Bursty Fighter? An Assassin? A Tanky Fighter?
Because she's got a kit that supports tiny bits of all of the 4 above and doesn't have one clear way of playing.
She needs a better Passive for starters.
5050BS1 votesYep its the same as 
Q If you Flash or dash while he is dashing he will do ZERO damage.
yisrahyah1 votesA few things I thought would be beneficial. without being too over powered is.
Autrah Fang1 votesYeah, this happens with and 
Q, and even with 
's empowered E (i figured that out the hard way a week ago, if you flash or dash out of Eve's emp E before the animation is over you don't get affected by it), maybe even more that I'm forgetting atm, but it's not only a thing with 
's ult. It can be really infuriating when you miss a kill just because someone flashed or dashed out of your point and click ability :/ Especially if the person is able to do it consistently.
The Trent1 votesHonestly, if Rek'sai dash is treated like a skill shot, I think things like Karthus R should be too. I don't even understand why they chose that for her ultimate. Like she has such an identity crisis. Damage on q/e, but both scale horibily. CC on w which also scales horribly. Decent scaling on R. It's like what is she supposd to be? All of her damage scalings are horrible, and she needs health to stay in the front line. The only thing she's good at right now is like invading a little bit against out of meta junglers that can't duel her and then being a cc bot like old Elise for the rest of the game.
mack91121 votesReksai has an amazing kit that has a high skill cap. She has a balanced kit.
You as the player need to know when to use your skills at the best opportunity. If they have a dash force it out first. If they have a flash force it out .
The massive part of reksais ultimate is being untargetable .
This is all from someone with around 600 games on her last season and like 200 best reksai na
ClutchCrux1 votesI must be incredibly lucky then, I've had people flash n dash and i still get them.