GP Barrel damage & lack of counterplay

Blåbæret··4 votes·828 views

When is the CD being upped and damage halved?

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WoonStruck3 votes

Its not about lack of counterplay.

GP just gets too much from barrels when they aren't that hard to utilize. Yeah, you can attack them, but you're bound to get hit by one eventually with how much he can spam them, and that means you likely lost the teamfight, much like with old Nidalee. You can have 400 armor and 4k HP and you'll still lose a huge chunk of your HP.


A good way to nerf him without hitting his numbers would be the Illaoi treatment. Make it so people can see his barrels in bushes that are in line of sight.

Outside of that, the only thing I think he might need are mana cost adjustments. Mana never seems to be an issue for him despite constantly spamming abilities.

Blåbæret1 votes

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Its not about lack of counterplay.

GP just gets too much from barrels when they aren't that hard to utilize. Yeah, you can attack them, but you're bound to get hit by one eventually with how much he can spam them, and that means you likely lost the teamfight, much like with old Nidalee. You can have 400 armor and 4k HP and you'll still lose a huge chunk of your HP.


A good way to nerf him without hitting his numbers would be the Illaoi treatment. Make it so people can see his barrels in bushes that are in line of sight.

Outside of that, the only thing I think he might need are mana cost adjustments. Mana never seems to be an issue for him despite constantly spamming abilities.

Very true bro.

redfeenix1 votes

Counterplay: auto attack the barrel and gain gold.

In fact you can farm barrels for extra gold if you play a ranged champ. Consider gnar, he does real well vs gp.

Overall I think his e is pretty boring and easily counterable. I think there should be another E on GP, which doesnt rely on this dumb barrel minigame between opponents. His barrels are really easy to destroy unless you drop the barrel while the chain reaction is occuring.

TTK Dreadnought1 votes

His barrels are really easy to destroy unless you drop the barrel while the chain reaction is occuring.

"Grenading" is what i call it and i still hadn't gotten the timing right yet.

redfeenix1 votes

hahah thats an apt term !

AthenasVendetta1 votes

They already nerfed him. glhf! Remember destroy or stand outside the barrels.

Lord Azır1 votes

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They already nerfed him. glhf! Remember destroy or stand outside the barrels.

They nerfed Azir 100x aswell, but people don't want to learn to play against Azir and instead bitch so he got gutted. Same should happen to GP

Great Muta1 votes

Just put a ranged champion on him and you'll win. I've gotten my butt handed to me by an Ashe. Even Fiora can beat him.

Oh and gank him. If he's not smart and doesn't stay in the barrel circle he gets taken out easy.

Kivolan1 votes

Velkoz is my favorite since his autos aren't projectiles. I can be ranged AND beat GP to the barrels. :D

Darksyde1 votes

GP barrels have no counterplay? It's pretty simple, and an incredibly well designed mechanic in my opinion (kudos riot), you just auto attack the barrel before he can. It all comes down to timing and it's a perfect and fair mechanical duel between players. The faster, better player will always win. Have you ever tried playing GP against a Diamond+ player who actually knows how to counterplay barrels? It's pretty annoying tbh. The most annoying thing in the game as GP is playing against someone who's better at timing the barrel attacks than you are because then you have to resort to only ever hitting people with triple barrels from out of range, which eats up EVERY barrel charge and is mechanically tough to pull off consistently.

tl;dr - Riot did a fantastic job with the GP rework and they made him a strong champ with great counterplay in the form of a fun barrel mini-game. Riot gave you a way to counterplay him, stop crying just because you suck at it.

VvVVvV1 votes

I whooped a GP with Voli....just step back...let the barrel reach 1 bar...then slap it.......easy.

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