it got me thinking

SnowFall··3 votes·362 views

Anyone notice that with each year passing, we have a huge decrease in champions who are viable in both ad and ap style (not hybrid)? From my opinion a good champion of that type is originally AD but can/might do fun fighting interactions as a full ap with his high ap rates. And high ap rates for AD, riot just doesn't do that anymore. Of the most recent examples, we have two APs that might have worked as AD - I tried TahmKench Ekko, tahm works good with devourer+hydra but no more than that, ekko is fine with trinity, still both of them cant build full ad and be viable.

And now the list and examples of the ruined and murdered by rito (using my foggy memory): ADC Ahri : was a thing when she was strong, not viable currently Alistar TOP Ali with sheen, nerfed although was less op than current darius, not viable Blitzcrank a special mention here, when I was a bit noobier than now I used to think that AD style Blitz was viable, on the higher ranked play sadly it is not. DrMundo has a choice to go AD but it is never viable as full tank or at least full mpen. Elise always goes AP, fulltank or Mpen but never AD despite some AD steroids, but I can't comment much here, dont play her Evelynn lost identity, full AP never works unless buys tanky rylai zhonya, full AD never works because rito fucked the way stealth works and nerfed her to hell Fizz AD viability brutally lowered Gangplank AP killed for real Gragas could go full AP before and be viable, now he can't, but at least he can be AD now with trinity/gauntlet+tanky Katarina another case of steroids for AD and no viability going AD, I think the ratios there are for gunblade only MasterYi AP murdered Mordekaiser full AP not viable anymore Nidalee AD not viable (thanks rito) (actually nothing is viable for her except jungle AP) Poppy with the removal of DFG AP totally not viable RekSai AP sup thing killed Rengar W 1 ratio to 0.9 = not viable Shaco numerous nerfs to AP style left AP unviable in SR Sion AP build officially killed Teemo labeled as marksman although ADC Teemo is never viable Tristana AP murdered Tryndamere have yet to find a viable AP build ~ probably not viable TwistedFate with the prevalence of new strong ADC, ADC TF became unviable, he was viable a few years ago Udyr it is almost never worth to go Full tiger Urgot item 3070 item 3070 Varus where did AP Varus go? Warwick AP lane version is not viable after some nerfs and different itemization XinZhao AP is still a thing? dunno Yasuo wasted AP potential Yorick item 3070 item 3070

Get a few lessons from this, rito, you need more champions that are viable in both full ap and ad, because they're actually fun.

2 Comments

Shroom Junkie1 votes

Personally I think AP Rengo, AP Shaco, and mid Nidalee are still viable, but maybe that's just me. The rest however, you're right.

Predatorator1 votes

APSkarner - never forget

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