Why doesn't Nashors Tooth

Kídá·Mar 28, 2018·3 votes·585 views

build out of ? Not complaining or anything, just that is the only on-hit item that does not build out of .

11 Comments

webstar1995Mar 28, 20181 votes

Because where would the extra 10% cdr come from? this would nerf Nashor's unless they kept the 10% just on the full Nashor's, but that would still be a nerf because the items that build into it would not both give you 10% each.

C9 Squeeky Mar 28, 20183 votes

It's not uncommon for a 20% item to only give 10% in its components. item 3078 item 3071 , item 3802 upgrades (even pre 8.4 AP itemization into old Morello only gave 10% from item 3108 )

EclairiusMar 28, 20181 votes

You're right. But item 3078 isn't an exemple of that ( item 3057 + item 3101 =20% CDR)

C9 Squeeky Mar 28, 20181 votes

oh yeah, forgot Stinger had cdr on it. I've also was curious why Nashor didn't build out of Recurve bow. tho.

EclairiusMar 28, 20181 votes

When I think of Nashor tooth users I mainly think of Kayle , Azir , Teemo (Thought building it on Varus & KogMaw is a thing). Out of these three, only Teemo isn't gated by CD for his big AA damage, and Azir doesn't even use On-hit. Getting CDR as early as possible seem to be vital for Kayle and Azir, so that might explain the use of stinger in the build path. Nashor tooth also has a bunch of other minor users who make better use of CDR than on-hit (ex: Diana ).

SalronMar 28, 20181 votes

item 3101 35% AS item 1043 25% AS item 3115 50% AS 35 + 25 = 60

AlienPrimateMar 28, 20181 votes

item 1043 25% attack speed item 3108 30 AP item 3115 50% attack speed and 80 AP

SalronMar 28, 20181 votes

yes lets take stinger out of the recipe for absolutely no reason while also having 10% less AS from components before completing the item

AlienPrimateMar 28, 20182 votes

I didn't say I agreed with the OP. I was just correcting your misconception on their recipe idea.

Zane ZephyrMar 28, 20181 votes

It's kind of weird that you'd have something that deals bonus physical damage building into something that deals bonus AP damage on hit and not have the physical part carry over in any fasion. Seems kind of counter-intuitive.

Lunar LunacyMar 28, 20181 votes

Well, it's not unheard of for items to have 0 cdr in their build paths (look at lich bane lol)

I just don't like nashor's tooth because there's almost no champions that even build it, there's not many AP champions that use attack speed and autos to deal most of their damage. Let's see, there's Azir, Teemo, Kayle, and Diana off the top of my head just to name a few. It seems underwhelming on every one of them except for Azir because he can use it from a safe range and apply the on hit damage from sand soldiers at once. None of the others have that kind of safe range or reliable escape/self peel so I personally think that it leaves them too vulnerable, as they will be too squishy to get that many autos off with it as opposed to getting items that will give them more bursty damage instead.

Again this is all opinion spare me the downvotes pls :(