why dont people play nocturne
is there a reason? my friend plays him and he seems pretty good.
is there a reason? my friend plays him and he seems pretty good.
nerfs to feral flare hit him pretty hard
aside from that he just doesnt offer nearly as much to a team as other jungle picks.
rammus has better ganks barring the ultimate, rammus also has a better teamfight maokai has better ganks pre6 and a better teamfight post6 khazix has more damage and more mobility vi had better cc and a better teamfight and her W lets her build tankier
i could go on but i assume you get the point. nocturne isn't bad, he's just not... good.
nerfs to feral flare hit him pretty hard
aside from that he just doesnt offer nearly as much to a team as other jungle picks.
rammus has better ganks barring the ultimate, rammus also has a better teamfight maokai has better ganks pre6 and a better teamfight post6 khazix has more damage and more mobility vi had better cc and a better teamfight and her W lets her build tankier
i could go on but i assume you get the point. nocturne isn't bad, he's just not... good.
Exactly this. Its possible to do really well with him. But he plays worse from behind than other junglers and doesn't bring anything unique that makes him worth picking over other junglers.
too much mana restrains. He's like old maokai nobody plays him because after 5 spells hes completly oom for 3 minutes.
Also mana ad items are very bad actually (murana is not usefull in any ways, the active sucks and theres no roa style for ad)
they're afraid of the dark also mana is a huge issue especially if you're not jungling
For me, it's that his damage is too unreliable. His CC is very difficult to land compared to say, Maokai, or Rammus, or Pantheon, or even Kha'zix's W, and it doesn't offer any benefit their CCs don't (Rammus, Maokai, and Pantheon's CC[s] are strictly better). Not only is he a bruiser with the ult of an assassin; he's an autoattacker who's reliant on spells to do his job. He's just kind of a mess, in my opinion.
I play him occasionally, but I'll always prefer Rammus or Maokai or Kha'Zix or Master Yi to him.
I see him once in awhile, and he's definitely no fun to play against (his ganks are next to impossible to ward against)
He does good enough damage to be a threat, can ignore one CC (really powerful), and is usually not that hard to get a fear off. I loath when they test out buffs for him when he doesn't need any.
It was the fear changes back at th fiddle nerf patch, noc has a weak fear with a weak slow. Now that enemies always run away instead of at random (sometimes toward you and your team) it doesn't give the same advantage it used to, and he has no good way to reliably get behind his target/doesn't have fuss duration to stay a relevant cc for a meme bruiser
Source: if you remember the path you remember the massive drop off of noct as a top tier jungler and all the unanswered rage
Nothing is wrong with him,
I love counter ganking and getting level 2 ganks on him at times.
Unless you are going tank noc getting feral flare is crap. Get Lizard w/ 1-2 damage items and focus the ADC. GG