Wow, look at this 2 second high skill level 7 outplay under my turret

Yenn··2 votes·452 views

And by that, I mean Rengar right clicking me and Veigar pressing R

https://i.imgur.com/zI3VcxF.jpg

Can we please make turrets actually do something to stop this bullshit? I shouldn't be getting dived with zero counterplay at level 7.

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420 grams3 votes

You were playing a squishy immobile mage and got bursted out by a burst mages execute ultimate and an assassin with over 2k worth of items in their inventory.

The counter play would have been to not get hit by veigars stun and use your e to disrupt rengars combo

Bionic Jellyfish1 votes

[{quoted}](name=420 grams,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oeiJ8F9X,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-09-29T21:39:25.347+0000)

You were playing a squishy immobile mage and got bursted out by a burst mages execute ultimate and an assassin with over 2k worth of items in their inventory.

The counter play would have been to not get hit by veigars stun and use your e to disrupt rengars combo

This right here.

Yenn1 votes

[{quoted}](name=420 grams,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oeiJ8F9X,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-09-29T21:39:25.347+0000)

You were playing a squishy immobile mage and got bursted out by a burst mages execute ultimate and an assassin with over 2k worth of items in their inventory.

The counter play would have been to not get hit by veigars stun and use your e to disrupt rengars combo

Good post, except my E did stop his jump, but bola buffers and goes off regardless, rooting me so Veigar can land his stun. Glad you know what happened, though

Monkey With Guns1 votes

Not to mention the ward in the inventory with the whole top side of the map dark. How can something be "busted" if the pros aren't doing it 100% of the time. More of a skill difference than a balancing issue IMO.

Dreamspitter1 votes

[{quoted}](name=420 grams,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oeiJ8F9X,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-09-29T21:39:25.347+0000)

You were playing a squishy immobile mage and got bursted out by a burst mages execute ultimate and an assassin with over 2k worth of items in their inventory.

The counter play would have been to not get hit by veigars stun and use your e to disrupt rengars combo

[sg-janna]

Well....I got 5 man ganked at level 7. Ziggs vs Zed. Jungler Xin joined him and perhaps I should have ran then. My tower still had almost all of its hp. Then....Twitch, Oriana, and Tryndamere, come from behind my turret for the lane gank.

Though....that's probably more a matter of communication, signaling, lack of vision in our jungle, top feeding (or being eaten like doritos) to hell and bot being dc'd.....

Actually. You're probably right.

[zombie-brand-clap]

Though I think they used three ultimates (Ori/Zed/Twtch) to do it because they hadn't planned how it was gonna go. I said "Oh -took all five of yah, uh?" and Zed said "It does when you're sittin under tower at lvl 7." I've heard it said that towers protect from minions. Champs protect towers.

Kaeblen1 votes

https://i.imgur.com/YAGpXPd.png I guess that ends the disscussion, then.

FireDrizzle2 votes

I got 3 man dove at minute 4 from 2/3rds hp without getting 1 kill and people told me why that was ok. But the game is not as good as it could be, without feed people can oneshot you under turret, and when they take time the tower only tickles. Theres too much damage early and tower damage needs a big tune up.

BobaFlautist1 votes

I don't understand, do you want turrets to 100-0 a champion over 2s?

Or do you want Veigar ulti to not kill a squishy, underleveled mage at 383 hp? You think his ult should do less damage? I also don't know which of your ap rune pages you were using, but two of them have no mr...

Or maybe you think Rengar, an assassin, should not have 553 damage burst on a squishy, underleveled mage? He shouldn't be able to do just under 60% of your house with his full, four ability combo?

Or do you maybe think that getting trapped in a stun cage shouldn't harm you, as long as you're under tower? Maybe towers should give you minion gold when they kill minions too, as long as they're erasing other mistakes.

Why didn't you back up? Either Rengar didn't use ulti until he was already on you, in which case proper warding would have spotted him out, or he used it early and you stayed barely under tower, within veigar's ranges. Do you sit around smelling the flowers when nocturne ults too?

Yenn1 votes

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I don't understand, do you want turrets to 100-0 a champion over 2s?

Or do you want Veigar ulti to not kill a squishy, underleveled mage at 383 hp? You think his ult should do less damage? I also don't know which of your ap rune pages you were using, but two of them have no mr...

Or maybe you think Rengar, an assassin, should not have 553 damage burst on a squishy, underleveled mage? He shouldn't be able to do just under 60% of your house with his full, four ability combo?

Or do you maybe think that getting trapped in a stun cage shouldn't harm you, as long as you're under tower? Maybe towers should give you minion gold when they kill minions too, as long as they're erasing other mistakes.

Why didn't you back up? Either Rengar didn't use ulti until he was already on you, in which case proper warding would have spotted him out, or he used it early and you stayed barely under tower, within veigar's ranges. Do you sit around smelling the flowers when nocturne ults too?

This entire post is retarded. You have no idea what you're talking about. Rengar walked up mid lane and ulted from the mid turret. I backed up as soon as the indicator appeared, and got jumped on beside my turret.

Indicator is 2000 range, he moves at ~540 MS during ult, and his jump range is 725. Vision range is only 1200, so he can start his ult about 1500 range from me, without me seeing him. He needs to close 775 distance to jump, which takes about 2 seconds if I start running back immediately.

tl;dr it's too late once the indicator appears.

There should be risk to diving me from 100% under my turret, especially if he eats my E out of jump.

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