Now that the enemy can't see how many shadow stacks akali has, you can't try to 1v1 her if because you will never know how many stacks she has. She can roam to bot with 0 stacks and the enemy will have no choice but to run. Please put the stack count visible to the enemy.
Haunt12 votes"Broken now"
lol
TheKingDodo7 votesJust remove 
. How come riot deemed sotd situational but not gun blade? only akali and very niche builds use this item. even jax use botrk instead. I love akali, but I don't want people to be constantly banning her!
edit: also fuck 
for all the trouble she's cost me in the past
Yandere Carry1 votesBork is a sometimes item for jax
Starrow5 votesBronze alert
Stars Shaper14 votes"Don't you dare claming that my main which has inbuilt: sustain, burst, mobility, escape, stealth, waveclear and a perfect item just for her is OP or unbalanced"
Here I rewrote your comment into a more clear sentence.
Junkο5 votesShe also has terrible pre-level 6, and if she doesn't get fed she is useless.
Fizz, Lee Sin and Thresh are way more overloaded than her (well Fizz not really, but Akali isn't either)
Budupops3 votesSolutions to all these problems: Terrible pre 6- jungler will babysit lane because he know how op akali is Useless unless fed- Will get fed anyway with point and click burst
Stars Shaper1 votesWell mate I'm used to a champion that litterlally kills himself before he can afford a 1200g item and then IF he hits a full wave of minions has his HP cost back.
And guess what? I'm doing fine because I don't dive turrets at level 2 and I can even lure junglers in to get a double at level 3.
If you wanna have free things in every level just go back to GTA with cheats.
Junkο1 votesI have no idea what any of this post has to do with mine. Also why are you talking about Wraith King on a LoL forum?
Stars Shaper1 votes
And you were telling me that Akali is bad pre-6
Well flash news she is not the only1 and ppl like the guy above have even worse early game.
Also your "knowledge" of LoL amuses me.
Junkο2 votesSince when does Mordekaiser kill himself with an ability.
Also Morde has in NO WAY a weak pre 6. if Anything he is terrible late game
Stars Shaper1 votesI would think you are trolling but I'll bite and explain you in the case you were serious.
Morde has HP costs without an HP regen mechanic pre 6 (his shield dissipates through time) and unless he hits lots of enemies the HP-->Shield conversion doesn't favor him.
He is immobile, doesn't have any form of CC and his kit is made so he pushes the lane so hard that any jungler with brain would gank him 24/7 unless Morde stays back and loses farm.
Before he builds Spell Vamp he just spends HP and a lot of them compared to max health before he builds some HP and anyway the HP cost is refilled only if hitting 6+ enemies.
Lategame Mordekaiser can easili face 3 ppl alone and come out alive and with 2 kills, let him ulti and kill an AD char and see him pulverize your team with the right build. This mostly because ppl forgot how to CC and kite.
Junkο1 votesHP-->Shield conversion doesn't favor him.
I can't tell if you are actually serious. His Q deals more dmg to single target if there is no other target around, his W also gives armor and mr on top of the shield, and his E just needs you to hit 1 minion along the enemy laner to get a bigger shield.
He is immobile, doesn't have any form of CC and his kit is made so he pushes the lane so hard that any jungler with brain would gank him 24/7 unless Morde stays back and loses farm.
Just go farm a jungle camp after the lane is pushed. Otherwise true, but Morde for that reason counters champions that suck at csing, especially under turret.
Before he builds Spell Vamp he just spends HP and a lot of them compared to max health before he builds some HP and anyway the HP cost is refilled only if hitting 6+ enemies.
You mean before he recalls for the first time because a revolver is all he needs to make his hp costs nonexistent.
Lategame Mordekaiser can easili face 3 ppl alone and come out alive and with 2 kills, let him ulti and kill an AD char and see him pulverize your team with the right build. This mostly because ppl forgot how to CC and kite.
Only if one of these 3 people was a tank.
I used to main Morde, his early game is way better than Akali. Also he counters Akali, bonus points for that.
Stars Shaper1 votesAgree on the akali counter, he actually counters most of assassins if not all. But this is not a point in his favor it's just is an advatage in direct faceoffs and not in general.
I'm maining Xerath and Morde so I have my experience too and against other Mordekaisers it was easy to exploit the inter-wave time to make use of the shield dissipation. This is the main factor. (plus, any form of ranged CC is a high free treath if the player has some brain and aim).
Ofc there are ways for Morde to overcome this as well as for Akali, yet he is more subsceptible to early pressure expecially from long range (while Akali can dodge a lot easier with stealth + move speed).
Also as I said, Akali has everything inbuilt (before even mitigation) and the perfect item. Build it and all you need to do even if behind is farm where you can and wait for TFs to get some easy kills on your burst that is high no matter what. Then Boom Akali can come back stronger than ever.
Man I've come out of situations where I had 3 ADs vs me (Riven, Jayce, Yi for example) and I could easily and rapidly kill one (happened to be Yi with ghostblade/ulti active on and Hydra that time) and then Boom Triple kill without even the time for the announceress to tell me I had a double.
Linkttp1 votesYou realize that Mord is known to completely destroy Akali? What does that say about her?
Stars Shaper1 votesMorde is the anti assassin pick.
Still it would mean that he is OP as fuck but since counterpicks don't matter in the general figure you can't say that Akali is balanced because a rather weak general pick counters her.
Junkο5 votesLet's also make Zed, Kat, Talon and Yasuo have indicators of when their ult is up, because god forbid assassins can hide their cds while other champs can!
insaiyanbacca1 votesexcept they cant use their ultimate up to 3 times in a row
Junkο2 votesAhri can, doesn't show her cd. Diana can use twice, if not 3 or more times, doesn't show CD.
Then there is Corki...
PrinceArchie5 votesYou'd need to have some ridiculous CDR and the most amazing mechanics to use Dianas ult more than 3 times in a single fight. That or your opponent has never fought a Diana and or doesnt know their own kill potential and let her walk away . Her ult is no where near as potent as most other assassins. And IF you somehow manage to get off your ult more than 3 times there must be some interesting things going on since ya know..... she doesnt have any real form of disengage....
Junkο1 votesYou can use it more than 3 times in a teamfight late game. I have seen most Diana's build Nashoors so Q becomes quite spammable (i have no idea if it's actually viable on her though, people could easily be building it cause recommended items).
Still does she show her ult is off cd? Sure most of the time that will be the case but still...
GrungyMuffin4 votesAfter they nerf pantheons passive first
Junkο3 votesso sick of tired of enemy team gaining level 1 dragons
Hayaishi4 votesWe should just gut Akali, nothing good ever comes when she ia viable
insaiyanbacca4 votesand this is the reason i play mordekaiser you dont need to know how many ult stacks she has shes stuck under tower and cant touch you or else she gets instant killed
Baculus3 votesBronze alert. Akali's shadow stacks being shown were a recent thing, and a change that should've never been done in the first place. Having mind games and not letting your opponent know when you can be messy is part of an assassin's strength (and a majority of ults). It'd help if you were skilled enough to deal with her, or had the sense to buy a sweeper and stomp her down.
ATM I wouldn't call her UP, exactly, but she's in a hard spot after the (relatively) massive shroud nerf. Then again, no one under (some) gold players even bothers to buy a sweeper trinket to delete her sole source of survivability. But then again, she always did excel against bads; like most assassins/burst casters/hard scaling champs.
Atuko7 votesYou could have made this entire comment without all of the rude indirect comments towards that person.
Baculus4 votesThere's no nice way to put it, if someone is claiming that an Akali can roam to bot without stacks and force someone back then they don't know what they're talking about. Or that not being able to see those stacks makes it impossible to 1v1 her (unlike all the other characters with gap closers).
It's just down to a skill check for this "RIOT NURF PLZ 2GUD", or buying a oracles lens... or picking one of the ten odd mid champs who stomp her. Or... sweeping and instagibbing her in her own cloud. There's a lot of levels here that just come down to knowledge.
Though, again, that can be said for most bursty snowballers; but they're not in vogue to whine about.
Budupops3 votesFreelo abuser detected
Baculus2 voteslol. If she's so good why don't you use her to hit gold?
Oh. Or maybe she's just not Freelo and never has been. She takes skill to get through laning and many matchups are unwinnable, no one should ever be afraid of her for any length of time. But! If you can't avoid feeding her, then yeah, I'd understand your frustration. Feel free for more bronzies/silvers to bring on the downvotes though, won't change reality. Or that Oracles Lense exists.
Not to mention that, personally, I have a wide variety of viable picks and did most of my stomping lately without her.
Junkο1 votesYou can just smite a jungle camp for free oracle now
Budupops2 votesOh. Maybe i don't like to use freelo point and click boring and easy as hell champs.
Baculus1 votesYou would if you could actually win reliably with her. :o
Budupops1 votesIts also funny how your most played rank champ is Akali...
Baculus1 votesMhm, man; it's not like I've said I was an Akali player or anything. Hundreds upon hundreds of games; when she was OP, UP, and trash tier. I know her better than you do, and admitably, just use her to stomp through bronzies/silvers to gold because they can't beat me with her. Which is why I pointed out the skill issue because that's what it boils down to. It's the only bracket I can reliably blind pick her though, since people with brains will stomp her into the dirt.
I'm sorry you can't play against her and the removal of seeing her ult stacks has brought you distress; but a non-numerical change shouldn't have broken it for you. Eh, you can just keep blaming the character though I guess (and talking down Akali mains who actually know her) as a reason for losing.
That helps a lot too.
Budupops1 votesFunny how akali has 55% win rate in diamond.
Baculus1 votesCute. I love how bads make excuses and... well, lie about them too. She's at a 54% win rate in pub diamond 5v5 and not even close to the top (which doesn't say much, there's more then 10 champs within a % point of that). She doesn't even chart at all in the bronzies/silver ques, so... you don't even know what a good Akali looks like. You start seeing her break (low) into the top ten winrates at gold, and throughout it's a pretty meh 53-54%ish which doesn't indicate anything "OP".
Doesn't chart at all in premades, which is far more telling. She can succeed against disorganized teams and snowball decently well but isn't out of line in regards to other champions.
(And before you whine about challenger, there's not enough games or players to make that a relevant point of comparison. Those people all have mains; and would mean Urgot and Ashe were OP)
Agent20901 votesFunny how akali has 55% win rate in diamond.
Akali actually has a pretty average win rate across all levels in soloq. It hits a little over 30% in diamond premades, so with your logic, she's actually UP. Considering if we take the average win rate for both diamond soloq and diamond premade, it would be about 43%. You really want to try to use win rates to illustrate your point here?
When it comes to countering a champion with items, I don't know of any that's countered as cheaply as Akali. A pink ward or the free sweeper are enough to shut her down (probably why her win rate is so low in premades, since they're smart enough/coordinated enough to actually use them).
Pre-6, Akali has no trading power(especially after the change to her shroud), and with a pink ward/sweeper, her only escape is rendered useless.
Budupops1 votesMost people below platinum don't know there are such things as pinks, don't know that the chickens give oracles, and don't know that you can upgrade red trinket. Jungler will camp Akali in lane because they know at 6 its over.
Agent20902 votesAkali has no need for escape, can 5v1 easy
Welp, you've just successfully removed any validity from your position with that statement. Congrats.
I've seen an Akali 1v2 easily enough, when the 2 didn't have a pink ward or sweeper.
If someone is smart enough to sweep or pink her shroud and the team focuses on her, Akali is dead before she finishes a dash. If all you do when you see her is run away, she is going to catch you, the MS boost from the shroud ensures that. Turn around, sweep/pink the shroud and hit her, preferably with 1 or 2 other members of your team if she's already fed somehow. Once the shroud is gone, she's a squishy assassin with no escape, her spell vamp can't out-sustain 5 people hitting her. If Akali is going in 1v5 and winning in that situation, then she's either full build while you're still level 1 or it's you doing something wrong.
FiraBurn2 votesHe's right on the akali take skills to use. She has a lot of bad matchups where she needs to make some good outplays. Budupops u just mad that a akali outplayed u hard and using the "freelo point and click" as an excuse for losing hard.
Eljin2 votesATM I wouldn't call her UP, exactly, but she's in a hard spot after the (relatively) massive shroud nerf. Then again, no one under (some) gold players even bothers to buy a sweeper trinket to delete her sole source of survivability. But then again, she always did excel against bads; like most assassins/burst casters/hard scaling champs.
What about her statistics in Platinum and higher games? Currently in this patch, she has the highest overall win % for Top Lane (56.1) and Mid Lane (55.34) in the game? She also averages the most kills in those lanes currently, and average killing sprees as well. (www.champion.gg)
I'm not trying to call you out. You seem to like her and have some knowledge of her. I don't know a huge amount of this game, but looking at hard statistics she doesn't seem to be a 'noob stomper', nor as easily countered as people keep saying on the forums. So I'd like to hear thoughts from the other side, as it is.
Baculus1 votesHello person!
First, thanks for sharing that site; it gives a lot of deep information to sink my teeth into. That said, I find myself questioning how the information is presented; especially for the varying lanes. Going solely by it however you need to look at the pick-rate and ban rate; about 29% ban and 4.7% pick. She's a popular champion but is open a /lot/ of the time and is just not being chosen.
This is because of how Akali works; she's not universally powerful unlike 'general' OP champs. She loses a lot of matchups and struggles in several comps, it takes effort to make it work. When you hit Plat+ soloque pubbing, Akali is only going to get picked in matchups that favor her to a point (or at least have some favoring bans). She's not getting an uneven win-rate because of raw strength (or her banrate would be higher), she's getting a winrate because she's being picked into advantageous situations.
And as I said; she /is/ a pubstomper (and a noob stomper, but not relevant in these %s). If you looked at her premade statistics, she fails. Fails hard. Akali gives very little against organized teams and, in that realm, would be straight "UP". There's a lot of work getting her to work in either situation.
When I said 'noob stomper' I meant that this isn't an issue in lower tier games at all. If I'm blowing through bronze/silver for gold at the end of the season, I can safely FP Akali every game without much risk of losing. The enemy mid will just let me farm/roam/etc and it'll be a slaughter; though actual bronze/silver Akali's don't tend to get those results reliably.
For counters... more or less, there are champions that should force me back before level 4 no matter how safely I play. That I should have <half their CS without getting ganked. It's really a one-sided punch-fest, but the people in these tiers don't know how to do it (or buy oracles lens. Recent nerf hit her HARD)
/Akali Tangent
(For the record, I'm mostly cheesing Vlad/Syndra/MF now because they're way more reliable at breaking the game)
Eljin1 votesHello person!
First, thanks for sharing that site; it gives a lot of deep information to sink my teeth into. That said, I find myself questioning how the information is presented; especially for the varying lanes. Going solely by it however you need to look at the pick-rate and ban rate; about 29% ban and 4.7% pick. She's a popular champion but is open a /lot/ of the time and is just not being chosen.
Yeah, it's a really cool sight. I'm a stat-freak though, so it's right up my alley.
Thanks for the response though, that actually does make sense and gives me some more numbers I need to look at. If she's just being picked into favorable match-ups, then it should follow that the % should be higher.
Leblancs Boob3 votesI would love it if she could have an aura displaying how many stacks she has... Give us more counterplay to Akali