We had ben told that "a stable patch is needed for worlds [aka 5.18] so we'l be holding significant changes for afterwards". And yet 5.19 has Kindred, a devourer nerf and a Nocturne tooltip only change.
It's the smallest patch since the beginning of the season. Why?
RiotMeddler41 votesMain Reason:
Secondary Reasons:
Deep Terror Nami25 votesPreseason is my favorite season. So many wild changes makes it so fun :3
Fadedpf13 votesI hope preseason comes with armor buffs/reverts of the nerfs....
chriserit1 votesThey said they are gonna change almost every adc and X adc items (dont know how many items but i feel most of them will). So well i feel like armor items will not be changed otherwise ad items will
RiotMeddler5 votesJust to keep expectations appropriate we're not going to be changing every ADC. We'll be doing work on a number of them, but a lot of them won't get touched apart from possibly some stat or low scope number adjustments.
Kobold1 votesWho is not planned to be updated and will there be a second pass done for those that were not updated?
Chromatic Eagle1 votesSo who's a priority for changes? Caitlyn was mentioned. Graves and Lucian.
Ferus and Ferrum1 votesA lot of buzz going around about Quinn.
sp4411 votesAlso Miss Fortune.
Vayne's also getting changes I hear, probably to accentuate her early game weakness since right now it's not quite punishing enough. Maybe also Twitch who has been languishing in the bottom tiers for a while now. Maybe Ezreal might get a few changes to his W as well.
The Yetii Rider1 votesJust to keep expectations appropriate we're not going to be changing every ADC. We'll be doing work on a number of them, but a lot of them won't get touched apart from possibly some stat or low scope number adjustments.
A lot of marksmen champions have terrible late games because they don't scale multiplicatively like auto-attack marksmen do. Varus, Ezreal, Graves, and to a lesser extent Lucian, Caitlyn and Corki. Champions that are supposed to have a strong mid-game, but lost a lot of their power when Bloodthirster was changed. How do you plan to address this?
TyroneWatermelon1 votesJust to keep expectations appropriate we're not going to be changing every ADC. We'll be doing work on a number of them, but a lot of them won't get touched apart from possibly some stat or low scope number adjustments.
Any teaser or hint on 
?
Declined1 votesI want ANY and ALL pertinent information on changes related to Draven!
Last change you made to him included QoL changes and a 'buff' that in actuality turned into a complete noob trap, I even made a thread on the subject.
Chromatic Eagle4 votesOh yeah. Question. A lot of melee carries and ADCs use the same/similar items as Marksmen. Will champions like Yasuo and Zed be affected by these changes?
chriserit1 votesyeah my bad should have not said every adc but many of them
SlashStriker1 votesJust to keep expectations appropriate we're not going to be changing every ADC. We'll be doing work on a number of them, but a lot of them won't get touched apart from possibly some stat or low scope number adjustments.
can you tell us by any chance which are the major ADC that are gonna be changed and which are the minor ones?
Pyrodinium1 votesArmor items were changed recently.
lightdragoon882 votesBring on the Preseason fun.
Bârd7 votesOh yes, le weedwick XD
remember when smite in lanes was a weird thing?
Ariel the Cruel1 votesRemember when only supports didn't take smite?
DrCyanide3 votesChilling Cinderhulk Smite says "there was no such time".
Ariel the Cruel1 votes
None of them took smite.
Pyrodinium1 votesMage supports barely count as supports nowadays.
Ariel the Cruel3 votesI doth protest!
Pika3101 votesSona doesn't even count as a champion anymore, let alone a support. I'd rather have a 4th caster minion spawning in bot lane than have a Sona, it'll die less often and do more damage.
Wind Whistler1 votes[{quoted}](name=The True Bard,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=obRAEmhE,comment-id=000100000002,timestamp=2015-09-24T03:21:07.750+0000)
Oh yes, le weedwick XD
remember when smite in lanes was a weird thing?
4.20 Warwick was really fun to play, I wish 5.16 Skarner was actually fun and not just unfair.
Brimaz The King5 votesDamn it meddler why do you always make sense? 😎 Great job of explaining
Flemman2 votesThird reason:
This is also world time, everydbody know Red dissappear from the board during that time (the 1 month from last year for exemple) , making it difficult to talk about change currently on pbe. So, it's to not mak change at all during that time than ending with something new which we never discuss about
Canastus2 votesSo does this mean that Cassiopeia will remain irrelevant until season 6 hits where she hopefully gets some of your attention again?
Pika3101 votesEveryone that normally works on balance changes is focused on work for the preseason that'll come out late this year (preseason changes are big, so take many patch cycles worth of work to prepare).
Are they looking to break their record for most simultaneous nerfs to a single champion within one patch? I started in Season 3 so forgive if I'm wrong, but I believe the current record is patch 4.13 with the 24 nerfs made to Sona. Will Fearless be the one in charge of breaking that record? Based on his work with the current record as well as ruining the jungle during pre-season 5, I'd assume he's the most well-suited to neutering another already sub-par champion like before.
Wind Whistler1 votesMain Reason:
- Everyone that normally works on balance changes is focused on work for the preseason that'll come out late this year (preseason changes are big, so take many patch cycles worth of work to prepare).
Secondary Reasons:
- We believe there's value in keeping the state of the game in the Worlds Patch close to the state of the game on the live servers, so that the game you're playing and the game you're watching don't feel unnecessarily disconnected.
- This also gives us a period of low change each year where we can assess how the game does or doesn't evolve when left steady. That further helps inform what we work on, and how, in the preseason/coming year.
So this is like what happened with Patch 5.15, except the following patch will be even bigger than 5.16?
ModWulf Helhammer2 votesThat's what it was like last season too. This isn't a post Worlds patch, this patch will be available to the public during Worlds
KaminoX1 voteslol i've been trying to get into PBE for a long time T.T why Riot Why you do dis to meh
Photos of Ghosts1 votesI'm not on PBE either, I just read s@20
Tofugi1 votesTbh I'm waiting for an aatrox buff
Photos of Ghosts1 votesI had made this a while ago, give it a look :D http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/bwAOjA6w-what-if-aatroxs-ult-turned-incoming-cc-into-dots
Faded Lich1 votesOP forgot about the MF buffs...all hail mf buffs \o/
Photos of Ghosts1 votesoh yea dat's true.