Why are runes going away?

TheGrot·Jun 3, 2017·2 votes·1,664 views

I mean seriously...does anyone know what Riot's reasoning is for getting rid of the rune system? I feel like they're just making drastic changes for the sake of making drastic changes.

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ChaddyFantomeJun 3, 20173 votes

Because runes are a shitty system, create a negative affect on the player base and go against all of riots all of design philosophies?

They are nothing but an IP sink, promote stack checking as they offer nothing but flat stats, and it gives you an inherent advantage over someone who doesn't have runes, thus creating a needless barrier of entry for people entering the game and especially in competitive and ranked play.

Runes aren't good for anyone really in their current state.

deadlychuckJun 3, 20172 votes

Except that you don't have to change the foundations of the system to change the system.

A lot of the problems of the rune system could be solved by making them side grades and making them all available for free. This would mean, that sometimes the "best rune page", would be to not take runes.

All this new system seems to do is pigeonhole players in to the exact styles which riot implements into the system, rather than giving players (in theory) millions of ways to combine things, and adjusting things as they cause issues.

ChaddyFantomeJun 3, 20171 votes

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Except that you don't have to change the foundations of the system to change the system.

The foundation of the system is flawed which i why it is being uprooted.

A lot of the problems of the rune system could be solved by making them side grades and making them all available for free. This would mean, that sometimes the "best rune page", would be to not take runes.

That's literally what they are doing to runes tho.

Moooose3Jun 3, 20171 votes

Why were plants introduced? Why have there been hundreds of jungle reworks? Who knows. They want to keep the game flavorful and new.

C9 Scott Free Jun 3, 20171 votes

In part, to help with the new player experience. Jungling is balls pre 20 unless you play high sustain junglers. With that being said, i thought keystones were a mistake and the stat stick masteries were better because the advantages you got from them weren't as over whelming as key stones.

MeserionJun 3, 20171 votes

They feel their value is not as integral as it once was, they view runes as more "minor upgrades" than anything major. They want strategic choice.

They're instead opting for "rune Keystones" which like the masteries, are based on keystone choices. Though I can't help wonder they may remove even those, because of "we already have keystones, rune keystones are redundant".

ProtestantCaesarJun 3, 20171 votes

The new runes are replacing both runes and masteries. Keystone masteries don't make keystone runes redundant because keystone masteries are also going away.

deadlychuckJun 3, 20171 votes

They want strategic choice.

Which is ironic, because history shows, that trading a lot of minor upgrades for a few major, influential ones, actually reduces strategic choice.

The Fuzzy 0neJun 3, 20171 votes

Best guess? To make the game ever changing so people can't get too bored with it since you always have to adapt. Though I'm not entirely happy with the changes to runes, it will make runes/masteries a looot more user friendly and will have an interesting impact on the game

oSEXYPLATYPUSoJun 3, 20171 votes

because the same reason riot does anything is cuz people cried and bitched

PhDs NutsJun 3, 20171 votes

Runes are a garbage artificial p2w stat requirement for a competitive game.

Keystones are also a garbage system and a balance nightmare, but one thing at a time I guess.

oSEXYPLATYPUSoJun 3, 20172 votes

well what they are doing is combining runes/masteries to one system with KEY STONE RUNES

i guess if you cant fix the clusterfawk that is league you just make it worst... and hope for the best.

but then again i have for a while purposed that runes and masteries need to go bye bye and balance champs and items with out the influence of runes or masteries.

SukishooJun 3, 20171 votes

They aren't going away completely... they are just changing the way they work.

ÐêvinAug 26, 20171 votes

Take away runes you will ruin the game, and if you make them free then players should get full IP refund since players earned their IP over many games. If not League will be ruined forever since many champions need scaling armor and magic resist runes, along with cooldown runes.