Lucian nerf is really useless

Anime Fizz·Feb 21, 2019·1 votes·1,063 views

Why not just nerf his base stats or his passive? The problem is that he auto wins the lane even without items (ive watched a dorans balde CULL lucian almost 100-0 in 1 rotation a bf sword jinx yesterday, like whats the point of playing anything that isnt lucian?)

Nerfing his W, which is a spell he doesnt even have to rank up early game past 1 point lmao, yes i know there was a cheese with starting W and ranking it maybe 1 more time for poke but it doesnt matter, he can just go Q first and destroy everyone anyways, which makes the nerf literally nothing.

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King of DemonsFeb 21, 20194 votes

Every time he casts W he will have 20 mana less. If he casts it 3 times, he paid as if he used it 4 times basically. It adds up. Look at mana pools in the early game, they're low and every point of mana spent reduces not only lane safety but also damage potential.

It allowed him to last hit from range, harass because it has good base damage and he likes the speed buff he gets from it too. The first two are now basically out of question in most situations, meaning his safety is very much impacted by it. It doesn't nerf his all in because that is what the champ is made for. This nerf was aimed at making him worse when behind, giving the enemy more room to capitalize on their own advantage.

Anime FizzFeb 21, 20191 votes

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Every time he casts W he will have 20 mana less. If he casts it 3 times, he paid as if he used it 4 times basically. It adds up. Look at mana pools in the early game, they're low and every point of mana spent reduces not only lane safety but also damage potential.

It allowed him to last hit from range, harass because it has good base damage and he likes the speed buff he gets from it too. The first two are now basically out of question in most situations, meaning his safety is very much impacted by it. It doesn't nerf his all in because that is what the champ is made for. This nerf was aimed at making him worse when behind, giving the enemy more room to capitalize on their own advantage.

"Making him worse when behind."

As if he ever gets behind in lane lmao, like you gotta be playing without hands or a monitor to lose lane as lucian.

The thigh guyFeb 21, 20194 votes

His winrate is 50.65%. In plat+

He really isn’t that strong. -.- he is the 8th highest in the role with the least champions.

Edit. Source https://champion.gg/statistics/#?roleSort=ADC&sortBy=general.winPercent&order=descend

BoltonatorFeb 21, 20191 votes

[{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oVsvkHYm,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-02-21T16:36:55.150+0000)

His winrate is 50.65%. In plat+

He really isn’t that strong. -.- he is the 8th highest in the role with the least champions.

Edit. Source https://champion.gg/statistics/#?roleSort=ADC&sortBy=general.winPercent&order=descend

That winrate will probably drop a percent or two soon. Earlygame mana management is such a big part of the game.

The thigh guyFeb 21, 20192 votes

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That winrate will probably drop a percent or two soon. Earlygame mana management is such a big part of the game.

Idk about an entire %. Maybe put him to high 49%. Pta still makes him really bursty.

BoltonatorFeb 21, 20191 votes

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Idk about an entire %. Maybe put him to high 49%. Pta still makes him really bursty.

Fair enough.

Anime FizzFeb 21, 20191 votes

[{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=oVsvkHYm,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-02-21T16:36:55.150+0000)

His winrate is 50.65%. In plat+

He really isn’t that strong. -.- he is the 8th highest in the role with the least champions.

Edit. Source https://champion.gg/statistics/#?roleSort=ADC&sortBy=general.winPercent&order=descend

Lets not mention the 30% pick rate and ban rate tho LOL.

Those stats are beyond broken, the fact he kept this kind of dominance bot lane even with the crit changes shows it.

The thigh guyFeb 21, 20191 votes

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Lets not mention the 30% pick rate and ban rate tho LOL.

Those stats are beyond broken, the fact he kept this kind of dominance bot lane even with the crit changes shows it.

I’m going to refer you to the fact that this is a stat line from platinum +. Meaning there are very few first timers playing him.

Ahri BakaFeb 21, 20191 votes

I'd take a Lucian being strong than a Jinx with a Lulu 2v5 lmao

Of course Lucian MUST win 1v1 He is designed for this , and he is an early game chanpions Lucian can't do what Jinx do Now stop the circle jerk Lucian's identity as a Lane Harass got nerfed So he is fine now , stop complaining.

Deliberate InterFeb 21, 20191 votes

Why nerf lucian at all? The second mid and bot lane itemization straightens out his kit is gonna be garbage again. A better fix would be to rebalance runes and items and other champions until lucian can be picked in the same spots that he used to be pickable and not curb him pending resolution because, historically, rito forgets about the champions they curb. We're looking at you azir