@Riot: Assassin's rework.

WolfChases··4 votes·3,361 views

Dear Riot, since you are planning to rework assassins, I have to ask you one question. Will their roles remain the same?

I am maining jungle assassins like Rengar and Kha'Zix and even tho I look forward towards the chages, especially Rengar's, since I consider him one trick pony who's only job is to press R and jump on someone he's going to kill or either die I would really really appreciarte if he stays in the jungle. I mean, both of them, Rengar and Kha'Zix are considered the most fierce hunters in LoL universe so their place is the jungle. I would not be happy to lose wast majority of my champion pool for my main role.

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RiotMeddler3 votes

Based off the current directions we're investigating I'd expect the assassins worked on to still work in the positions they're currently good in. That's an early estimate though of course.

WolfChases1 votes

Ty so much Meddler, it is a nice info. Wast majority of Rengar and Kha'Zix players are jungling with them and it would be kinda bad to shift them somewhere else. Other than that, what's the point of expelling hunters from the jungle anyways?

Ty again, you made my day :)

Shaydrox1 votes

Kha'Zix will see only small changes, they'll try making his evolutions more interesting (especially his W and R I'd imagine). Rengar on the other hand might just be part of the big 4/5, getting half his kit reworked. He'll probably be kept as a jungler (Riot won't really change the main playstyle of these champions too much, or their roles in the team) but he'll have way more counterplay probably.

ApexInTheCircle1 votes

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Kha'Zix will see only small changes, they'll try making his evolutions more interesting (especially his W and R I'd imagine). Rengar on the other hand might just be part of the big 4/5, getting half his kit reworked. He'll probably be kept as a jungler (Riot won't really change the main playstyle of these champions too much, or their roles in the team) but he'll have way more counterplay probably.

I hope so, because I'm getting real tired of playing Grey-Screen-Simulator when he's on the enemy team.

WolfChases1 votes

There is one guy who changed Rengar's kit in the way it has to be.

Like this:

Normal Q - Initial damage lower but boosts next few AAs with bonus damage.

Emp Q - Initial damage lower but boosts next few AAa with bonus damage with bleed damage over time.

Change to his Q makes him more of a sustained rather than split second burst damage dealer.

Normal W - Remove deff stats from his Q and nerf the heal but add some lifesteal to it for x second durration.

Emp W - Nerf the heal, give it lifesteal and make it do damage equal to the enemies missing health

Removes the tanky stats an ASSASSIN do not need at all. Difference between Emp Q and emp W are that Rengar will often use emp W to assassinate targets with lower HP rather than smashing them with Q

Normal E - Should not be changed at all

Emp E - Remove the root completelly, add more range, make it slow the target like normal E but make Rengar able to leap at his target after Emp E.

Change to E leaves opportunuty for counterplaz. Yes, rengar will be able to leap at you but that's because he used his ferocity for the leap instead for the raw damage and also, since you are not rooted you can blink, dash, flash away.

R - Pretty much the same, since it perfectly fits sustained damage dealer Rengar with that MS and fero regeneration after the leap.

Something like this would be cool to see on Rengar.

Shaydrox1 votes

This wouldn't change much about him, the current issue is that he can spam AA Q Q out of invisibility which is pretty silly, while this change would not let him instagib people he would still just dive on someone and spam some empowered autoattacks to win, honestly some of his spells need a full overhaul.

WolfChases1 votes

Loool than what should Rengar be in your opinion? A support? Medler said ther Rengar will remain bursty and will keep his stealth so all I can tell you is thatvyou should not expect any change thats going to change his personality. He will remain stealth assassin with burst damage.

Leeerzeichen1 votes

Maybe I'm not up to date, but my last information on rengar was that he's getting pushed away from his assassin play style into a sustained damage fighter.

WolfChases1 votes

You are not up to date :)

Leeerzeichen1 votes

I looked it up: We'll be doing another class update at the end of the year. Divers and Assassins are the two best arguments for that spot at this point. Given Rengar falls somewhat into each camp I expect we'll do some work on him either way as a result. My personal take is that's more likely to push him towards diver characteristics than assassin ones, though I'd imagine he'll probably still have some elements of each regardless.

Tl;dr he will loose some of his assassin characteristics.

WolfChases1 votes

Yes but divers (read Evelyn and Nocturne, are somewhat assassins) Rengar's kit is entirely a Divers kit comparing to Zed's or Talon's which are typical assassins. I even consider Kha'Zix a diver more or less. What I am talking about is that Statikk stated that none of assassins are gonna lose their burst and assassination potential being a typical assassins or diver ones a little bit more sustained damage assassins.

As I said, I am happy with the changes, the only thing I am worried about is a role. As a Rengar player I would not like to switch to top or mid just because Riot ruined his jungle potential. That's the only thing I am worried about, nothing else. If you ask me, make him a bruiser, I dont care, just let me play him jungle.

JustARivenMain1 votes

Hope Kass gets some compensation for losing the Silence so long ago, seeing how most Teamfights last around one rotation, would help him a ton to either get a small silence or something, maybe make his Q's magic shield get spell immune like Morg's.

SlntReaper1 votes

Talon won't. He's getting nerfed to..... a utility tank with no CC. Which means he will do jackshit. "He's having more mobility" that riot will use as an excuse to nerf Talon. He was fine the way he was.

WolfChases4 votes

Dude, you know nothing. They are not shifting Talon onto tank role lol. Statikk who works on each assassin clearly said each one of them eill be assassin.

SlntReaper1 votes

Sorry, i meant he will do no damage so people will build him tank.

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