Jesus fucking Christ I've opened several Hextech chests and only got skin shards.

TheLittlestLulu··187 votes·9,662 views

I'm at 600,000 mastery points with Lulu and I got 3 mastery 7 shards for her, but apparently because I'm not good at RNG with other non-Lulu champions that means I haven't mastered Lulu enough for rank 7.

Yeah Riot when people said that champion essence was worthless this is totally what they had in mind :^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^)

I just want my god damn mastery 7 on Lulu and I can't even get it by playing Lulu.

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ApexInTheCircle72 votes

This game is turning into one big cluster fuck of hiding their shit behind a paywall.

I appreciate the free skins I can unlock , but don't put my champion mastery behind a paywall or RNG that would make warframe blush.

roflcopterssssss7 votes

that would require allot considering the rng bullshit requirements of warframe, make weapon X to make Y to make A so you can finally make the weapon you want, weapon B.

and the blueprint for 1 of the warframes, I literally played for 14 hours nonstop before I got the blueprint, and because it was through a ''quest'' all I got at the end of every mission were credits, biggest waste of time ever so I highly doubt LoL can top warframe it's bullshit rng paywall.

Hard Penetrator13 votes

Jesus f christ, stop giving them ideas.

Yosuke Apperu3 votes

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This game is turning into one big cluster fuck of hiding their shit behind a paywall.

I appreciate the free skins I can unlock , but don't put my champion mastery behind a paywall or RNG that would make warframe blush.

I miss playing war frame, is it still good?

ApexInTheCircle2 votes

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I miss playing war frame, is it still good?

I still enjoy playing it, but I take breaks from it every now and then. Sadly that game has consumed over 1200 hours of my life.

Red Onion King8 votes

You're complaining about a little tiny, purely aesthetic banner in the corner of the load screen? Honestly? Better make us pay for the next champions ult, that way we have something real to complain about. The game is free, you only pay for aesthetics.

Wylderthanu3 votes

We shouldnt have to pay for showing how good we are at a champion. A lot of people already spend money on this game.

Red Onion King1 votes

Show it in the game. Mastery doesn't mean you're good, it means you put extra time into that champion. If you're playing a mastery level 7 and do horribly, I'm probably going to think worse of you than a no-mastery that plays the champ poorly.

Wylderthanu1 votes

Thats true. In that case they should make it harder to get. Maybe more S or S+'s. Still don't like that they want you to basically buy it but someone did tell me that they won't either charge ip or rp but that they will charge both. So happy about that.

Red Onion King1 votes

All that does is make it take longer. The highest Mastery level is still achievable by even the worst players. People need to stop looking at these icons as an assessment of skill, it's ridiculous.

Wylderthanu1 votes

True. Maybe making the S's harder to get. Too late now though :(

Sir Hammerlock25 votes

Yeah, I have to say that this system even requiring essence is a total fluke. It's basically asking you to spend money because of the low probability that you even get a Champion Shard, nevermind one that is even worth enough Essence for Mastery 7.

This is causing quite the uproar, so I suspect Riot is going to do something about it, like remove the essence cost, but who knows - they certainly have become more greedy over the years.

ModWulf Helhammer8 votes

They are adding in a method to get a mystery champion shard with IP

Lazypeon1002 votes

Hey, do you have a link for that? That would be great, especially for players who own all the champs and have IP to spend.

ModWulf Helhammer4 votes

ZOINKS! We’re adding a new mystery champ item to the store for RP or IP in a future patch that’ll help offset the RNG of finding champ shards and permanents in chests

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/patch/patch-610-notes#patch-dynamic-queue

Daen8 votes

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They are adding in a method to get a mystery champion shard with IP

The fact they didn't release that method along with the Mastery 6/7 system is a very clear indicator that they are looking to milk people for a little while until they finish rolling it out.

I don't usually jump to conclusions like this, but Mastery is not a time sensitive release; Riot easily could have waited until both parts were finished before rolling it all out together, but they chose to stagger it so people wouldn't be able to use IP to replace the RNG of Hextech Crafting.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

I can't comfrim this (someone mentioned it in a teddy comment), but I think the reason they didn't have it available at launch is that was bugged.

Daen2 votes

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I can't comfrim this (someone mentioned it in a teddy comment), but I think the reason they didn't have it available at launch is that was bugged.

I would love a source on this, if you're able to find one. Either way, however, I'd view the IP sink part to be core to this system, to avoid the frustration of either having to deal with sporadic RNG from Hextech Crafting or paying for Mastery.

Being required to pay to show your skill with a champion (unless you're lucky with chests) is stupid, quite frankly, and personally I would have preferred Mastery 6/7 to be put on hold until the IP piece was ready.

Wylderthanu1 votes

They also said they might charge rp for it. Really dissapointed if they do charge rp.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

They said or, as in you can do either. Like how champions are available for IP or RP

Wylderthanu1 votes

Oh ok thanks for clearing that up for me

rtbf22561824116 votes

#Tencent

I doubt Riot themselves are greedy.

FoggyPaws2 votes

THANK YOU, everyone always forgets that Tencent is in charge. +1'd for accuracy, -1'd the post above you for inaccuracy.

ModWulf Helhammer2 votes

Except you're wrong. Tecent does next to nothing at Riot, and that has been the arrangement since the beginning.

rtbf2256182413 votes

Tencent decides on and changes every feature Riot creates to get profit out of it. There would be otherwise no other way why to even own Riot. Do you know how companies work?

ModWulf Helhammer3 votes

Yes I know how business work. I also know that not every business works the same way.

Chinese companies in the past had tried to enter western markets with their own products, but failed because they didn't understand the western market. So instead, they decided to just buy into successful companies, and just let them run (as they knew what they are doing) and collect the profits off of them.

If you want more info, here is the letter Riot published themselves: http://www.riotgames.com/sites/default/files/uploads/110204_NEWS_lol_tencentinvest.pdf

rtbf2256182412 votes

Do you know what the Splash Art Unification is? Those shit changes we got are all done on Tencent's initiative.

i don't exactly know why or how is this supposted to increase the quality of the game but that's the way it is and it was entirely done on Tencent's initiative.

Also, you're generalizing too heavily. League is the most popular game in the world, so thinking the company that owns it has something to do with it's recent monetization products and tricks is not something out of this world to do.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

Seriously? Take the tinfoil off.

The Splash art updates was not done because of Tencent. Tencent could care less what splashes are used (so long as they don't have anything illegal for the country). Additionally, those updates are temporary, in order to make it easier to output any future changes or anything of that nature. There are multiple riot posts on this.

And please, tell me: what are the recent money grabbing initiative from Riot? The one where they allow people to get previously pay locked content, for free, just by playing the game? Yep, that's certainly money grabbing.

They are adding in a way to get champion shards with Ip. Be patient and stop the conspiracy theories.

rtbf2256182412 votes

I'm taking this info straight from the Riot posts. They said those were Tencent splash arts.

Ok you're one of those people that are obsessed with their own ideals.

What the fuck does that have to do with anything? We're arguing over Tencent's initiative in this not about the Hextech Crafting.

There's no reason to talk to someone who is has such a closed mind. Especally since you ignored one of my points meaning i've won the argument already. Bye.

Stars Shaper14 votes

I'm just waiting for Riot to implement "wings" on character like any respectful asian mmorpg does.

Imperatricis2 votes

and runescape

Hyrum Graff9 votes

PSA: If you want to make an angry post, this is the way to do it.

OP is clearly angry, but still makes good, logical points against Riot's decision -- not empty insults against Riot themselves. Further, OP talks about how annoyed THEY are, as opposed to projecting on to Riot.

I didn't think I would ever upvote one of these, Lulu, but here you go. +1

Truly Prideful7 votes

They need to just combine the two essences and be done with it. It makes no sense to have them split like they are.

Devo Hes4 votes

they are split the way they are so that people cant use the champion shard disenchant to make the skins

if they did they would have to up the essence cost of skins

Truly Prideful3 votes

That would be fine and honestly feel better. No matter what you get has some kind of value to you. If you want skins you'll get dust or even a skin shard you like. If you need mastery you'll always have a chance at dust or possibly the shard you need. A slight increase to prices to make everything feel better seems good. At least it removes some of the RNG on top of the key RNG.

Dethkilr5 votes

I would love to have your luck and only get skin shards. Soon enough IP will solve this problem with level 6 and 7 mastery

Velzard of Koz4 votes

The new system shows your skill... Of pulling out your credit card and buying enough boxkeys out of desperacy desperation until you get some champ shard. :D ##mandatorykappa

On the serious note, this may improve with presenting of Random Champ Shard for IP. I am just afraid that either this will be treated the same way as SoloQ, or that they didn't release it together because they wanted people to spend money first, or that it will cost you several thousands of IP. But seriously not releasing it together was big mistake.

Boiled Triangles1 votes

desperacy

The word you are looking for is desperation.

Velzard of Koz2 votes

Whoah. I really thought desperacy is a word. O_o My dictionary was a lie. Anyway thanks.

Kal Vas Flam4 votes

I quit playing Marvel Heroes because of the RNG. it was otherwise a great game, but the RNG had just gotten to the point sickening. If Riot keeps going down this road I won't hesitate leaving here either. I don't mind paying for stuff, I'm not broke IRL and have spent thousands on this game over the last 4 years. I'll gladly contribute to a game I enjoy without complaint, but if you make my contributions luck based then we're going to have issues.

Wolfess3 votes

oh nooooooooooooooooooooo I can't get mastery lvl 7 on a champ, what ever shall I dooooooooooo. especially with all these worthless skin shards that are absolutely good for nothing.

TheLittlestLulu10 votes

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oh nooooooooooooooooooooo I can't get mastery lvl 7 on a champ, what ever shall I dooooooooooo. especially with all these worthless skin shards that are absolutely good for nothing.

I don't want skin shards. I only really play one champion and I already have all her skins. Skin shards are literally worthless to me.

Wolfess7 votes

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I don't want skin shards. I only really play one champion and I already have all her skins. Skin shards are literally worthless to me.

my bad, I forgot the part where Riot is supposed to exclusively cater only to your needs and not have a new system in place that can give people the chance to win free cash-bought items just by playing the game and trying to play well. Here, let me go give them a slap on the wrist for reducing the chance to earn champion shards that can easily be bought with IP and giving us higher chances to earn actual-money-costing items. Shame on them.

TheLittlestLulu9 votes

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my bad, I forgot the part where Riot is supposed to exclusively cater only to your needs and not have a new system in place that can give people the chance to win free cash-bought items just by playing the game and trying to play well. Here, let me go give them a slap on the wrist for reducing the chance to earn champion shards that can easily be bought with IP and giving us higher chances to earn actual-money-costing items. Shame on them.

I don't care about the potential free items. I care about the fact that Riot tossed this Hextech shit into CHAMPION MASTERY in an attempt to rope in people who otherwise would never consider buying a chest.

Ulquiorra9955 votes

This basically. It's called champion MASTERY for a reason.

What's next? Getting stuck once you reach Silver 1 and requiring you to spend X essence in order to unlock Gold rank? Same shit basically, locking a reward that is tied by design to playing behind RNG and/or paywall.

AIIan10 votes

oh nooooooooooooooooooooo I can't get mastery lvl 7 on a champ, what ever shall I dooooooooooo. especially with all these worthless skin shards that are absolutely good for nothing.

Ladies and gentlemen, a slow clap of ovation to our strawman here !

http://66.media.tumblr.com/6d9c8e2ded008a3057247737ceeb4c6e/tumblr_n2xr5srGOo1sgl0ajo1_400.gif

The skin shards have absolutely nothing to do with the champion mastery, it's irrelevant. Now, do us a favor, and mail yourself to a part of the world with no internet access. Thank you.

Jorencice2 votes

He was saying that she should be happy she got skin shard and not champion shards.

AIIan6 votes

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He was saying that she should be happy she got skin shard and not champion shards.

Basically what I'm saying. It's irrelevant to the topic and used as a "shut up" retort.

"Mom, can I have a new phone ? Mine is a little weary." "Honey, there's people in Africa that are starving to death."

Elikain1 votes

Oh wow, at first people were complaining why do the champion shards even exist as loot because the whole point is to RNG content that is RP exclusive. But now, we have people begging RNJesus for champion shards. OP, this is my third time replying to you, in a third thread so i'll make the next sentence as big as possible:

#RIOT WILL PUT (IN A PATCH OR TWO) RANDOM CHAMPION SHARDS FOR IP IN THE STORE TO ELIMINATE THE RNG FROM HEXTECH CHESTS.

The key here is to sit tight and wait for it to come out. You aren't losing anything by waiting a little while, you can farm up IP and S tokens for the next level so that you only need blue essence to unlock lvl 6 and then 7. You aren't required to bend over for this, you are basically playing the game with Lulu and trying your best - like you always do.

Wolfess4 votes

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#RIOT WILL PUT (IN A PATCH OR TWO) RANDOM CHAMPION SHARDS FOR IP IN THE STORE TO ELIMINATE THE RNG FROM HEXTECH CHESTS.

the IP dump we've been waiting on for years.

I can hear the tears of happiness across the internet

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