so can we talk about swain for a sec

Dr Dog·2/6/2019, 4:32:26 PM·7 votes·5,743 views

specifically the main reason hes pretty bad rn, hes just trying to be too many things at once and just ends up not having a role, sure he can go top mid or adc back can anyone actually tell me his main role? not reaslly because he doesnt exactly have one, not enough dps to go top and too easily countered by mr, not enough range or burst to go mid and again not really enough dps now to keep up with other bot laners.

my main issue though is his ult imo basically his ult is supposed to be a mix of dmg and sustain but the trade-off is its honestly not very good at either, the healing isnt enough to be a good sustain spell in fights especially with ignites being super common and morello being a core item on most ap users. his ult needs to either be tuned toward dmg or sustain because being meh at both just isnt working for him at all

in short with swain they tried too hard to keep old swain with his ult but took away the kit type that supported swain to begin with and it left him in a really janky spot

EDIT thanks to a commenter i did remember my other point, hes so mana hungry he needs to get early mana which isnt an issue for most as item 3285 or jitem 3003 just gets rid of mana issues on most ap champs but swain has so little burst power and ratios that he cant afford not to build hp early on not to pop forcing him into build unfavorable items like item 3027 and it ends up gimping him farther

18 Comments

MrDrBudd2/6/2019, 5:23:56 PM7 votes

He's completely fine.

Moonscourge2/7/2019, 3:02:31 PM3 votes

He ain't that bad. His ult is his best ability. Just meta doesn't favor him as much right now.

Rocnation982/6/2019, 9:22:42 PM2 votes

Swain has a metric fuckton of damage if you land his full combo. If you land the snare and drag and there is nothing blocking the FULL Q. It does ridiculous damage. He is balanced the same way as Vel imo. If you are able to land the entire combo , you can 100-0 most squishy champions.

SEKAI2/6/2019, 5:52:08 PM2 votes

All Swain needs is a buff of 50 units on his ulti's range to match his old ulti's range.

Then he's all good.

Naalith2/6/2019, 6:19:37 PM2 votes

The problem is that he came out pretty strong, got nerfed into being reasonable, then started abusing duo lane bot with champs like Pyke, then got sledehammered. Now that mages bot aren't really a thing besides Cass and Heim, they really should buff Swain back to a reasonable place solo lane.

oortoomeebreesuu2/6/2019, 7:51:08 PM1 votes

If they kept his old ult with his new qwe + passive, I'd be so happy.

Et Tu Geddn XNa 2/6/2019, 4:53:01 PM1 votes

Problem with Swain is that riot forced him to go Roa , into Hourglass and so on

SpaghettiVase2/6/2019, 10:49:46 PM1 votes

Swain's damage in a teamfight is fine, but his farming is terrible