Why Adaptive Helm is not adaptive? (another AD bias)

HP Crookshanks·Nov 2, 2018·4 votes·1,024 views

Why does it counter only magic damage? Why does is grant only MR/HP? Aren't magic damage dealers or AP champions already much less played than physical damage dealers or ADs? APs that 'supposed to counter tanks' ( etc.) and (which is also supposed to counter tanks) are illogically countered by this item.

Teams can go full AD without having no problems but going full AP is obviously a guaranteed loss. Please nerf some of 's stats and give it some armor and make it counter physical damage too ( P E R R etc. and maybe auto attacks too without making it OP). Because I am bored of your AD bias. ADs already have too many items that counter armor and that makes tanks seem useless. This change might make tanks survive against these extremely popular AD champions while making AP champions more viable.

16 Comments

Moody PNov 2, 20188 votes

Because it was designed to counter magic damage because magic DPS was cancer before we got Adaptive Helm. AD champions are countered by armor and health. Armor is far more abundant than MR and there already two items that fuck up physical DPS in Randuin's and Frozen Heart.

Teams can go full AD without having no problems

Stop lying.

HP CrookshanksNov 2, 20183 votes

How is armor far more abundant than MR while item 3153 item 3124 item 3031 item 3035 item 3036 item 3033 item 3071 and Conqueror exist?

And who builds item 3110 ?

Tahminatrix Nov 2, 20185 votes

I build item 3110 ...its literally the only counter to champions like Vayne .

If you tested item 3110 with item 3082 you would know that those items rape auto reliant champions when built together.

(master yi on the other hand requires item 3193 to outlast his ult)

AlzonNov 2, 20181 votes

item 3143 item 3110 item 3053 item 3190

%HP true damage is countered only by shields and sustain, the on-hit is countered by Attack Speed slows.

Oh, and item 3157 item 3026 also counter Yi to prevent/delay his ult refresh.

ModWulf HelhammerNov 2, 20183 votes

Most of Vayne's damage is AD.

And if you slow her attack speed, then you slow the amount of true damage she can do.

AlzonNov 2, 20181 votes

And I don’t have tons of armor in that build?

Tahminatrix Nov 2, 20181 votes

shields and in combat sustain are not readily available to most champions item 3053 wastes gold on ad if youre a tank or do magic damage, its tailored to certain juggernauts item 3190 requires you to have a lot of hp (so only if youre a tank)

item 3110 reduces atk speed of vayne even if she isn't targeting you and it lingers unlike item 3190 which drains itself (vayne can just use her empowered q to go invis which lets her wait for the shield to drain itself alittle bit,same case with item 3053 , same case with MasterYi q

saltranNov 2, 20183 votes

I like how you list all item 3035 item 3036 item 3033

When item 3035 is a component of the other two to make it look like there's more items.

And it's worth to mention that the penetration of both finished items dont stack so you can only buy 1 of these

HP CrookshanksNov 2, 20182 votes

Oh so sad I almost felt bad for ADs. They don't have enough items to counter tanks! And it's also worth to mention that APs only have item 3135 and item 3151 .

ModWulf HelhammerNov 2, 20184 votes

It's almost like Mages are burst champions that aren't made to deal with tanks, aside from a select few AP champs that have entirely different play patterns.

OtterlyLostNov 2, 20181 votes

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Because it was designed to counter magic damage because magic DPS was cancer before we got Adaptive Helm. AD champions are countered by armor and health. Armor is far more abundant than MR and there already two items that fuck up physical DPS in Randuin's and Frozen Heart.

Stop lying.

Theres also thornmail. Dont forget thornmail. I think one of its components now slow AA speed too.

saltranNov 2, 20185 votes

Mages are the most opressed minority