Can we nerf Brand please?

fééd l0rd·12/15/2015, 12:35:56 PM·11 votes·3,924 views

He is dealing way too much damage. Almost everytime I play against Brand support he deals more damage than the adc. Velkoz support is fine allthough both are damage dealing supporters. There is clearly something wrong with Brand and now Deathfiretouch is getting buffed so nerf the living shit out of him!

11 Comments

Grashnim12/16/2015, 1:22:45 AM6 votes

Love all the down votes on an obviously broken champ. Must be people who main him.

EndlessSorcerer12/15/2015, 12:51:26 PM2 votes

ADCs deal primarily single-target damage and take a while to ramp up (since they need to purchase damage items).

Brand deals primarily AoE damage and ramps up more quickly (since he can focus on cheap magic pen items and levels).

Considering Brand's support build is basically Spellthief's Edge, Sightstone, Ryali's Crystal Scepter, Liandry's Torment and Void Staff, I don't really see an issue with him dealing damage. It's kinda all he has going for him aside for a conditional stun.

Voidac12/15/2015, 12:41:44 PM1 votes

They're already nerfind deathfire and they've already nerfed Brand. Brand isn't strong right now, people just don't know how to play against him. He has no CC or utility outside of one skillshot combo-stun and now they've nerfed his combo-costs.

Meserion12/15/2015, 1:39:32 PM1 votes

Brand is not a support, not even as a secondary. People play his as a support because of his cheap spammable Q poke and passive, but otherwise he has the ratios and scale factor of a mage, so his burst is on par with an ADC because he is a mage. The problem with picking him is it is very difficult to setup kills with him because he does not possess an easy initiation effect, thus playing him effectively requires pinpoint accuracy and a lot of careful planning until you get item 3116.

People play mages as a support because certain ahem CHAMPIONS (Zed Yasuo) have pushed them out of mid lane, so they go support in an attempt to balance the teams damage sources so they're not pure AD. Its not an ideal setup and more often than not its very risky because you don't have the tools to guard your teammate effectively or set up kills and make plays. Also a mage requires quite a bit of gold so they either need a ton of farm or for their teammate to get fed in order to get the gold they need. It works fairly well at lower rankings because people a lot more.

Gold income works pretty well, but I would like to see them buff gold income so you get as much gold as an ADC with say item 3303 set, if you use it well. This would further reward a good support with lots of gold and therefore lots of carry potential.

Kal Vas Flam12/15/2015, 1:40:59 PM1 votes

I mained Brand for much of last season and his overall damage is always the highest. That doesn't mean he did the most work though. And he is still extremely vulnerable.

TheDevice12/16/2015, 1:29:35 AM1 votes

how is brand support any different from annie support? And if brand gets nerfs, so should she.