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So I just watched Redmercy's video about new assassin item

Lithium Rosa··4 votes·686 views
Redmercy

Like WTF dude, that's absolutely broken and ridiculous. About item itself, it gives too much raw status(AD and Armor pen) for that passive, or active coz it has a cooldown, but it''s technically a passive. Then it's about assassin, I'm a mage main and I might be biased, so lets suppose assassins are not broken and are actually balanced. Then you give them another huge burst like all the assassins can have double ult if they want, do you really think it's gonna remain balanced? (let's assume it's balanced right now), while DFG is not allowed to exist in game???

Another thing I want to bitch about is when I heard him saying "this item's cooldown is too long and I don't like it." Like really dude, Riot can you look at this, do you realize how assassin players are spoiled that they think they are supposed to kill an opponent** every single minute **otherwise it's not fair?

"but muh mid year mage rework" That only include a very little part of mage, while Rumble is not a mid laner and Ryze is not a typical mid laner, the number of actual mid mages are like three or four, and there will be 10+ mages remain untouched and helpless against assassins who have 2 ults.

You removed mana potion, you removed Team builder, and now you put this on. WTF is this season, did you hired some apes to be designers or something?

8 Comments

Zielmann1 votes

Read the Rioter posts in this thread, and then see what you think.

All the speculation out there about the new item and how broken ad assassins will be with it is being made in the context of the current balance state of those ad assassins. They were balanced previously to be able to work okay with a set of items that don't really provide exactly what it is that these champs want. With the new item made for ad assassins, they'll be able to finally take away some of the extraneous power they had to pump into these champions just to make them viable with the current pool of items. Expect nerfs to come in alongside (or shortly after) the item to tune them for the new item.

LF Annie1 votes

i only hope its soon enough, assassins roaming bot are already cancer upon us support mains.

Zielmann3 votes

It'll start in the very same patch they release the item:

Zed's actually a poster boy for this effect - collateral damage from preseason items changes forced us to buff his kit directly. Itemization support means we don't have to load as much power in his kit. We're looking at a direct nerf in 6.3 alongside this item release and we will certainly be watching his performance going forward.

Tundra Fizz3 votes

[{quoted}](name=LF Annie,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nx8P0EzE,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-02-04T21:09:23.466+0000)

i only hope its soon enough, assassins roaming bot are already cancer upon us support mains.

There is this thing called a "ward" that supports (and ADCs) can use to protect themselves from players that roam from the mid lane.

LF Annie1 votes

i cant buy wards. trinket wards leave periods of no vision, and i cant make up vision until my first back, when i can get sightstone. ** your cure is flawed.**

Tundra Fizz3 votes

[{quoted}](name=LF Annie,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nx8P0EzE,comment-id=0000000000010000,timestamp=2016-02-04T21:19:54.619+0000)

i cant buy wards. trinket wards leave periods of no vision, and i cant make up vision until my first back, when i can get sightstone. ** your cure is flawed.**

Pink wards are a thing.

And before you say, "but it can be destroyed wasting muh gold..." it still gives you vision and knowledge that the enemy is coming which denies the mid laner of their precious time.

Also I don't even know why you're complaining about such a basic concept in the game. Junglers gank lanes all the time and champions can also TP gank from top lane.

Once you get to the higher elos, supports will start roaming with their jungler or they will roam mid for a gank.

LF Annie1 votes

i'm complaining that they're giving ad mid laners more MS to come to my lane faster when its already a tough task pulling adc's which are notoriously un-aware out of harms way before harm arrives.

also, pinks can be cleared by bot lane, long before they ever see a mid laner or jungler. so spending 75 of my 150 gold on one, coming from base, is a risky, low reward investment.

junglers are levers, coming and going is what they were meant to do, mid assassins, don't need to be able to do other teamates jobs, without receiving some loss for it.

taking TP, loses the option for a kill spell, like ignite.

#moremobilitycreep.

Lithium Rosa1 votes

{quoted}

Read the Rioter posts in this thread, and then see what you think.

All the speculation out there about the new item and how broken ad assassins will be with it is being made in the context of the current balance state of those ad assassins. They were balanced previously to be able to work okay with a set of items that don't really provide exactly what it is that these champs want. With the new item made for ad assassins, they'll be able to finally take away some of the extraneous power they had to pump into these champions just to make them viable with the current pool of items. Expect nerfs to come in alongside (or shortly after) the item to tune them for the new item.

Alright, as long as they are not nerfs like -1 base AD or something, that will do.

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