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PLEASE Don't do this to malphite

Unnamed Feeder·8/12/2017, 7:53:28 AM·17 votes·1,479 views

According to PBE, Malphite's Q is going to get its cooldown increased at lower ranks, its base damage gutted (especially at rank 5, lowered from 270 to 180), and his movement speed steal duration lowered. This is a HUGE nerf to him. The lowered mana costs and movement speed slow increase in lower ranks doesn't do NEARLY enough to compensate. Even with the W buff I'd say its a net nerf by a large margin. Malph was already struggling because of the Sunfire Cape gut. He has a 49.6% win rate in Plat, a 49.8% win rate in Diamond, and 49.5% overall (WAY below average). If anything he needs buffs (with no compensating nerfs) - just ship the W changes and don't change his Q. There is NO REASON to nerf Malphite further, ESPECIALLY in the what little damage he has left after Sunfire Cape. Riot, please don't do this to one of my main champions....I beg you I know its just PBE but I can't imagine what would happen if this passes (particularly to Malphite support)

Edit: All changes reverted. Malphite support can live...at least hopefully until the end of worlds. Thanks!

32 Comments

PopcornBunni8/12/2017, 11:45:42 AM12 votes

Malphite doesn't fare very well when he's not doing damage, so we're taking away some of his tools to lose more often.

Iota Theta8/12/2017, 2:06:30 PM3 votes

It's for the best. He is an older kit, and actually needs more than just this. He has a point-and-click slow with decent damage that he just spams, and the mana cost isn't that bad once he gets an IBG or Frozen Heart, an AoE knock-up nuke (provided he goes AP build).

Riot said they were going to add skill expression to his kit, and this is the start, playing around his passive shield and not relying on Q spam (the same thing everyone hates panth about). His Q spam makes it a very uninteractive lane.

Malphite does not need buffs, he needs kit changes. A mostly point and click tank and a lot of power locked into his ult. I want them to go further and nerf his ult so he can get more changes to hold him over until a rework. He's similar to Cho or any other old champ. His kit is an old enough design that straight number buffs can send him into the OP tier. With more skill expression and less Q spam, he can be tuned better in terms of numbers and health.

Besides, max rank W (a better first max against ad tops anyway) with passive shield will grant 105% increase in armor, so while his passive is up, his W and E will both deal more damage, and against AD, his passive will stay up longer provided you actually builtnlike a tank.

Need Gold 4 Tent8/12/2017, 5:18:45 PM3 votes

FUCK STOP DESTROYING MY AP CARRIES ONE BY ONE!!! Sion MasterYi Tristana NOW Malphite !!!

Critmaster Garen8/12/2017, 2:49:41 PM3 votes

keep all these changes and add an armor scaling to his q.

btw. the upsides are: lower mana costs, increased movement speed steal at early ranks (25% rank 1 from 14%), reduced cooldown at earlier ranks (8 seconds from 11).

if they add like a .2 or .3 armor scaling to this, then the base damage nerfs, 1 second less ms duration and 1 second more lategame cooldown wont be an issue.

his q is already an ability thats only worth putting 1 point into and maxing last. so as a 1 point wonder this is a definite early game buff. but it hits the lategame scaling of the ability, which an added armor ratio could fix.

Eternal Torment8/12/2017, 11:33:04 AM2 votes

i think thats their precise goal, to gut malphite support. riot made very clear with the malza semi-revert that they dont wanna see supports who were intended to be solo laners

Salson8/12/2017, 2:55:22 PM2 votes

Malph was already struggling because of the Sunfire Cape gut. He has a 49.6% win rate in Plat, a 49.8% win rate in Diamond, and 49.5% overall (WAY below average).

He is never more than 0,5% below average. He is also supposed to max E. And his ult should break terrain like Orn's E.

A Bad Nasus8/12/2017, 9:41:39 PM1 votes

Its not like he maxed q first.

Malphite support is a troll pick anyways.

RizHippoKhan8/12/2017, 3:43:18 PM1 votes

THE ONLY REASON I EVER PLAYED MALPH WAS BECAUSE OF THAT SWEET Q CHUNK AS A TANK AND NOW!! ......and now its gone....... ;-;

HaIlMonitor8/12/2017, 5:16:12 PM1 votes

and 49.5% overall (WAY below average).

Perfect world everyone should have 50%... how is that below?

WinBoat8/12/2017, 8:14:53 PM1 votes

Who cares? Ornn is going to replace Malphite and is cooler.