Potenital Veigar W Rework

Meep Man··2 votes·359 views

W- Dark Storm Passive: Veigar can hold up to 1/1/2/2/3 charges of Dark Storm, plus an additional charge for every 100 ability power that he has. Active: Veigar calls down a dark meteor that lands on the target location after a 1.25 second delay, dealing 100/110/120/130/140 (+35% AP) magic damage to enemies hit. Every successive cast of Dark Storm costs 25% less mana than the last cast (down to a minimum of 5 mana per cast), the mana cost reduction being lost upon casting another spell or after 15 seconds of not casting Dark Storm. Cost: 40 mana Cool Down: 0.9/0.7/0.5/0.3/0.1 seconds Recharge Time: 8 seconds Range: 1100

This is just my attempt to make Veigar a little less "OMG HE JUST INSTANTLY DELETED ME" while still keeping that feel of power about him. It also reinforces him as a late game champion while still helping him with farming AP early game since it's easier to get stacks through W early. It also makes Veigar a little more intimidating visually to fit his super evil thematic. Thoughts?

10 Comments

Astôlfo1 votes

People's complaints about Veigar deleting them are irrelevant and they need to learn to quit crying and whining. His W is fine as it is right now. 100% AP scaling is far better. He's designed for late game anyways, and 100% AP scaling is better lategame than having a 10-second CD 35% AP scaling charge-system ability.

Crett1 votes

Well. At 1000 AP he can cast this thing 13 times. From 1100 range. There wasn't a cooldown-between-casts specified, so I imagine once they start falling, you'll be taking one hit per .25 seconds in the AoE (general spell cast time)

Meep Man1 votes

Basically. Also I specified the cool down between casts now after an edit (woops). It's minor but can make a difference similar to Yasuo E. Of course, even with the mana buff, casting just two is 100 mana and then 130 mana and so on. Casting 13 would deplete a decent bit of mana, about 200 mana or so. It would also take a while to recharge that much.

Astôlfo1 votes

It costs too much mana and stock. His current W is like 90 mana at max rank and can oneshot just about anyone hit at late game. This costs 100 mana for two uses and isn't even close to the same damage.

Meep Man1 votes

I reduced the cost, but added a minimum for the cost. The stock is ok in my eyes later on. I guess early and mid game it could have some buffs.

Astôlfo1 votes

I still honestly don't see the point of changing it. There are no valid complaints, and a stock system like this with a decreasing between-stock CD of tenths of a second will either be broken OP or worthless.

Meep Man1 votes

I still think that Veigar's W could be in a better state than just basically an addition to his E. Veigar is already in a decent spot for his kit and his W usually ends up being overkill anyway in his burst combo. What he needs more of is poke in lane and this helps it.

Astôlfo1 votes

I mean once he hits late game, E-W can wipe or near wipe multiple people instantly, like it should. 35% AP ratio is terrible.

He doesn't need more poke in lane, he's supposed to have a weaker early which is why he has to farm.

Ok sure but why1 votes

imagine that 0.02 cooldown in urf

Michael J Fox would love that shit

though it would sorta turn into kog's ult; might as well just make it a lazer beam from the sky that needs to charge up

Meep Man1 votes

When your cool down is too small for your cast time

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