So now that Riot is trying to get more AP Junglers up in here...

D2Vincent··1 votes·613 views

What exactly is the Red buff going to be good for besides a health regen when smited? I'm just saying Having a red buff on an AP jungler is a little useless (especially when all you do is cast spells ie: Karthus, Annie, Anivia ,Brand, etc) unless you play Elise, Ekko, or any other AP champ that can basic attack rather well along as use their abilities. Every time I've gone JG Karthus or end up killing someone with red buff, I get my red buff and go "ok, now what the hell am I supposed to do with this red buff lol."

almost every champ has some sort of use of the Blue Buff because not only does it add some AP for the AP guys, but it also add some mana regen as well as %10 CDR for AP and AD champs whereas Red buff's debuff (slows + deals a small amount of True Damage) only applies to Basic attacks, and the only thing an AP jungler could benefit off of it is some HP regen.

So my proposition to buff Red is as Follows:

Crest of Cinders

"This unit's physical attacks and spells apply a debuff that slows the target's movement speed by 8 / 16 / 24% (5 / 10 / 15% for ranged attacks and AoE) for 3 seconds and a DoT that deals 5-56 bonus true damage twice (half for AoE). Also heals buff holder by 1% of their maximum health per 5 seconds. If the buff holder is slain, this buff is transferred to the killer."

It allows for AP champs to get the same benefit as the AD champs do, while giving any AoE damage at least a little bit of usefulness. As always, feedback (especially from a red :P lol) is appreciated!

5 Comments

ThatCoolBacon1 votes

that would make it so karthus at 3 minutes in the game almost has a rylais slow on his aoe, i dont think this is a good idea, and it would help tanks out alot more than the ap in my opinion, say amumu with the health regen and the mini rylais and the damage that he would get would make amumu really aggressive ganker early and make him more of a threat when he is supposed to hit 6.

Sett up 4my gank1 votes

You are kidding right? Red buff is amazing on any jungler and is probably the better buff early tbh by a decent margin. The true damage is really nice but the slow is incredible.

D2Vincent1 votes

Perhaps on anyone who actually basic attacks, but there ARE champs who don't really use any basic attacking whatsoever, and Red buff's Debuff only works on Basic attacks. I don't really see red buff as any useful on any AP junglers (outside Elise/Ekko, etc) other than the health regen.

L0ve Is Blue1 votes

Red buff for mages is what blue buff is for lee sin and Tryndamere jungle. XP and gold.

Sett up 4my gank1 votes

I think you are using red inefficiently then, if you weave in 1 auto, which is very very easy as Annie Brand Anivia, even karthus it sets up all your spells. Get an auto brands WQ combo is simple cause they are slowed, same goes with anivia combo, and makes karthus Qs easy aswell. As for annie, she has extremely high range and her autos are actually very fluid so afte stunning auto with red and it will give you enough time for that extra Q.

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