with 
dealing half damage to champions
and 
losing all of its damage why would anyone pick a tank in the toplane?
pro players do not even consider picking 
in pro play,a champion that was picked for her disengaging and diving abilities.Why would anyone pick her in solo queue?
Ralanr5 votesIt's not sunfires damage that bothers me, it's the low range for waveclear.
Jbels2 votesI am 100% convinced that the tank update happened because someone at the office said "Hey, worlds is coming up in a few months, shouldn't screw over the dominant tank champions (which will screw the less dominant ones as well) by overbuffing ADCs while nerfing the shit out of their itemization? Tanks are boring in pro play, let's do that"
Penns1 votesWell they arent wrong hehe xd
Also 
is top tier now
SciFi Scrivener2 votesTanks are slowly being killed off ever since the tank update several patches ago. Riot really needs to decide if they want tanks in the game or not.
EndlessSorcerer2 votesHonestly, it just seems like they don't want tanks in top-lane.
Jungle and support tanks aren't actually doing that poorly.
Ralanr1 votesThough I feel that tanks designed for top lane are going to have problems soon.
I don't want Sion balance around support.
EndlessSorcerer1 votesHonestly, Sion is probably one of the few tanks who can actually survive top-lane in the current meta (provided you aren't against Fiora, Darius or Riven).
His kit is innately powerful, his builds (and skill order) are versatile enough to adapt and he can handle ranged top-laners.
Escheton1 votesThey are last pick and the team has 4 carries so far?
ZT Xperimentor1 votesBecause some people are tired of playing second fiddle; either behind as a support or overrun in the jungle. Too bad tanks have been forcefully gimped for the last couple years.
AlienPrimate1 votesMaybe because the tank is meant to have carries to back them up? The change to thornmail is good. If you are picking a tank wanting to do damage to carries then there is something wrong with you to begin with. You get thornmail so when team fights come around, the damage from your carries can stick instead of the enemy just lifestealing off of your increased tank health bar. If you want to do damage then pick a damage dealer and get over the fact that your damage is being nerfed in exchange for being a better team player.
Escheton1 votesMaybe because the tank is meant to have carries to back them up? The change to thornmail is good. If you are picking a tank wanting to do damage to carries then there is something wrong with you to begin with. You get thornmail so when team fights come around, the damage from your carries can stick instead of the enemy just lifestealing off of your increased tank health bar. If you want to do damage then pick a damage dealer and get over the fact that your damage is being nerfed in exchange for being a better team player.
But the window should be bigger so Tank players don't inherently climb slower because they need their team to follow up on good engages. Tanks need to be tanky enough to compensate for slow carry reactionspeed, basically. Or deal enough damage on their own. Preferably a little of both.
Guren2751 votesOld thornmail was better vs life steal though....
as can be seen here: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/f5MzfY7A-old-thornmail-was-better-at-countering-lifesteal-than-new-thornmail
Quepha1 votesOld Thornmail was such an essential part of playing tanks before this patch? Anyways the changes to it make it much stronger.
You pick tanks for the same reason you always picked tanks: you're better in a teamfight than any other option.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesi have mained maokai top lane for going on 3 seasons. just played it in my last game
was 2nd in damage in the game behind zyra
Automated Riven1 votesi got wrecked by a maokai top recently. MY anus was not prepared for that amount of damage. I didnt even get hit my saplings from brushes and still got rekt.
oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votesi just wrecked an over aggressive renekton in lane...
he took 18 in resolve , he had grasp he took TP
it was too easy to start cloth and pots and even with the ganks by kha, and kass he didnt kill me
i made a tp play bot side and got a kill n two asst and it was done from there
my items were 
building into 
ForFoxSakes1 votesIf youre picking a tank to do damage you're doing it wrong. Basically you're bitching about a tank doing less damage
Lovelle II1 votesDamage is everything in LoL though. Hell, even in most MMOs the tanks/supports that deal the most damage tend to be the best picks of their class.
EndlessSorcerer1 votesHonestly, the current top-lane meta isn't helping tanks either. The most common top-laners:
They are (largely) dominant laners and/or powerful splitpushers.
If you pick a tank into them, you are resigning yourself to a shitty laning phase and will likely be forced to counter their splitpusher rather than teamfight.
Ralanr1 votesSadly my Sion jungle doesn't move fast enough so I'm stuck dealing with top. God I love a splitpush top laner meta.
EndlessSorcerer1 votesHave you tried playing Sion mid-lane?
His ultimate is great for roaming, his waveclear/poke are rather good and his opponents would typically lack durability/sustain.
Ralanr1 votesI'm been tempted. Most midlaners have more poke than top laners so I have to deal with more harass.
EndlessSorcerer1 votesHonestly, it shouldn't be that bad; Sion's poke/waveclear is rather powerful and his innate sustain would outclass the majority of his opponents.
Personally, I'd recommend trying the following setup:
Runes:
Quints: Precision
Marks: Precision
Seals: Armor (flat/scaling) or Health (scaling)
Glyphs: MR (flat/scaling)
Masteries:
Ferocity: 0
Cunning: 18 (Thunderlord's Decree, Precision, Meditation)
Resolve: 12 (Perseverance)
Starting Items:
Option 1: Corrupting Potion
Option 2: Doran's Ring + 2 Health Potions
Your health and mana sustain would let you outlast most opponents during the laning phase. Your high base damage combined with the flat armor/magic penetration (and TLD) would let you chunk your opponents rather harshly and they wouldn't have the sustain to heal it back up.
Ralanr1 votesI'll try it out later. I don't like going TLD on Sion but since runes are going soon I might as well.
