Explain why mages can't have magic pen but ADCs can?

lolipopevelynn·Mar 20, 2017·3 votes·462 views

I don't really understand the logic here. Riot made an effort to get rid of all Mpen items except for and but they not only kept armor pen, but changed the formula so that it can be better late game and even ADDED more items that give flat AD penetration.

Why do they need it but mages dont? Carries already blow up just by blowing in there general direction, so I don't see the reasoning of "its to help kill squishy targets harder". Mages are atleast gated by Cds, Ads and ADCs can just build atk speed and make to supplement their attacks while their abilities are on CD.

10 Comments

ForgiveColourMar 20, 20171 votes

But mpen is strong and mages already got locket nerfed for them???????

RalanrMar 20, 20171 votes

ADCs don't need it really. Lethality was originally intended for AD assassins more than marksmen as it's useful in killing low armored targets.

dunder killMar 20, 20171 votes

A few reasons. First, there is drastically less base MR than base armor. Second is that void affects total MR, not just bonus. This makes is effective versus all targets and not just tanks. Third, magic pen isn't gated by level.

lolipopevelynnMar 21, 20171 votes

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A few reasons. First, there is drastically less base MR than base armor. Second is that void affects total MR, not just bonus. This makes is effective versus all targets and not just tanks. Third, magic pen isn't gated by level.

The only Armor item a AP mid or ADC/Assassin is going to build is GA and hourglass. You are not going to see them building thornmail,frozen heart, randuins... Ifnact a AD mid is going to be building more MR than a AP mid is going to be building Armor. 2ndly, even tho there are fewer MR items those items have always been more than enough to negate Mpen. the way it is now you can just pick up a item 1057 and entirely negate both liandries and sorc boots and still have 10 MR to spare...

To bring all of this into perspective, imagine someone like Zed or Talon thes guys can build item 3814 item 3156 item 3147 item 3142 and have a SHIT TON of damage while also building MR vs a AP mid. Is it really fair to get both penetration and MR while building dmg while on the other side of that you have riot taking a massive shit on item 3001 ?