Unpopular Opinon: Assassins are ONLY fun for the people playing them

FederationFurry··5 votes·1,200 views

Riot says repeatedly that it wants to make the game "fun for everyone". That is common sense, that makes for a good audience. However the vast majority of assassins, fighters and bruisers are ONLY fun for the people playing them. Most of these champions have no resources so can endlessly spam their abilities (which are not weaker to compensate for the ease of access).

This is the root cause of the problems with the game. There is TOO MUCH DAMAGE and Riot refuses to do anything about it. I don't want to play Street Fighter or Fornite or any other dumb action game that current kids play. I want to play League, as it was in the past.

This is why Riot will never release a "Classic" version of League because they know if they do, more people would flock to it because it would be 20 times more balanced then what we have now. Sure, old League had problems but they were nowhere near as immediate and "in your face" as they are now.

I commend Blizzard for actually doing this with WoW because it shows that a lot of players want League to return to the simpler times without champions that can do everything or have no cost.

Everything should have a trade off... its simple GOOD game design. I am unsure Riot, with all the years of experience is unable to understand this.

Guess they are too busy farting in their employees faces...

16 Comments

Teh Song4 votes

Fun to play as but not against is pretty much rule of thumb.

Not fun to be burst killed by assassins, is fun to burst kill as assassins. Not fun to watch tank shrug at your damage, is fun to shrug at damage as tank. Not fun to get sneak attacked by stealth, is fun to sneak attack out of stealth. Not fun to get shredded by adc, is fun to shred as adc. Not fun to watch a support negate your actions, is fun to negate actions as support. Not fun to get cc'd, is fun to hit cc.

Not fun to get hit by Ashe arrow, fun to arrow. Not fun to get Draven'd, fun to Draven. Not fun to step on Teemo shroom, fun to be on shrooms (wait did I say that wrong). Not fun to lose to Highlander, fun to highlander. Not fun to see Zhonya's, fun to Zhonya's. etcetcetcetcetcetcetcetcetc.

There is too much damage though, that is true. Damage meta not so good.

Zero Shingetsu2 votes

I agree. I have fun playing against tanks; the cat and mouse of initiating and getting around to the squishies.

I have fun playing against ADCs, picking the moment to go in hard and getting away by the skin of my teeth when the chips are down.

I have fun playing against mages, as it often means dodging a LOT of skillshots and AOEs.

I have fun playing against supports, as there's "battle rhythm" to find between their heals and CC, and finding that perfect ebb and flow is a challenge.

I rarely ever have fun playing against assassins.

FederationFurry2 votes

Well heals and shields are becoming irrelevant next patch anyway, so you won't see much more them.

Fízz v21 votes

Yeah playing against adcs is so fun, 0 counterplay undodgable dps Poggers And tanks, getting killed in 3 seconds by an unkillable brick ayy lets get it

boricCentaur12 votes

You can say the something about ANY CLASS IN LEAGUE.

Play ANY ENCHANTER support and it's basically A BIG FUCK YOU to almost every assassin. THERE PROBLEM SOLVED. Or buy a anti burst item like THERE ARE SO MANY OPTIONS VS ASSASSINS it's not funny.

Like parts of this post are not talking about assassins "Everything should have a trade off... its simple GOOD game design.' Assassins have a pretty big fucking trade off for picking them you lose CC AOE Late game Less back line or front line Doesn't do anything from behind.

I feel like you are just making stuff up to look right.

Also I don't think you play video game. "I don't want to play Street Fighter" you know fights in it are LONGER and more SKILL dependent then league right that is just how fighting games work.

Like I'm not going to lie it sounds like you don't understand how game design works.

FederationFurry2 votes

Most assassins have some form of slow or can build one from items, such as item 3146 etc, that is still CC A lot of assassins have powerful AOE A lot of assassins have pen that can make them powerful threats in late game Most assassins have the mobility and safety to do either

Last one, I'll admit SOME assassins suffer if they cannot get an early lead. But normally champions like Zed are still useful, even if behind.

I think you need to take off the rose tinted glasses. I'm sorry that you do not see the obvious favouritism that Riot has poured into this class in order to keep players (mostly weebs) happy. At least ADC's had a small window period where they were not the only thing in botlane, before Riot yielded to peer pressure to reinstate the meta.

boricCentaur11 votes

Slows basically doesn't count as cc unless they're strong which assassins don't have. Since it's usually a cc for them and ONLY them.

What assassins has aoe zed nope,talon nope,kha nope the only one that does is kat.

No assassins don't have enough pen late game that's WHY THEY FALL OFF lethality is ONLY GOOD vs base protections nothing else that is why most assassins only build two since by the time they get the 3rd one it's doesn't do anything.% is not good on assassins too since they will not attack anyone with that high of armor to make it worth and the only reason they build item 3071 is for the hp,cdr and ad the pen helps but not much and almost every ad assassin will have trouble stacking it. Ap assassins do scaling a bit better but that much again for the reasons I said.

Also late game there is much more peel for the back line making it hard for assassins to do anything.

Like have you actually seen a assassin here I will give you a example talon goes in to kill a Kai'Sa with a thresh support he presses ult then q's her but thresh will probably have item 3190 and item 3109 meaning a lot of the burst is negated then talon just gets cced and dies.

Unlike you I'm not lying to myself and that's why I used proof and explanations unlike you.

You need to step back and think and stop with this biased like what favoritism?? Towards assassins they sucked basically all last season and now that class is some what ok to good depending on the champion with basically NO BUFFS actually nerfs. The last time assassins were the dominant class was in season 7 the start of it then after the assassin meta we got one of the worst metas of all time in which assassins were basically unplayable.

Cind3rkick1 votes

Coming from someone who plays Vayne and Shaco mainly. I have alot more fun as Vayne vs Assassin than shaco vs other.

FederationFurry3 votes

You are playing Vayne, you can't really comment. She's a pseudo assassin with her invisibility and constant rolling around.

Cind3rkick3 votes

Thats not an assassin though Thats a marksman with alot of survivability.

Zero Shingetsu2 votes

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Thats not an assassin though Thats a marksman with alot of survivability.

I disagree, her burst damage is easily on par with most assassins. ADCs aren't (supposed to be) built for burst, they're supposed to kite and whittle. Mid to late game, Vayne can melt most anything in three hits.

QuM1tSuk3 YT1 votes

You're a support main. Playing Janna. And I'm sure when you get oneshoted you cry. Meanwhile assassins cry against tanks and mages who just smash keyboards.

FederationFurry2 votes

Yup, and I see plenty of assassins one shot armor stacking tanks, which they SHOULDN'T do.

Edge of Daybreak1 votes

Generally the thing interacting with you isn’t fun for the receiver. I’ve never said im glad this adc is auto attacking me. Man the burst mage finally hit a cc guess I die. Exciting. Oh ive been exhausted by the support and they are throwing out massive shields. Glad those are point and click why should they have to try?

Tuition Fee1 votes

They don't seem to be fun when they're behind, though :L

Hordes661 votes

When you a witness an absolute mess of a patch release just this week, when you see mode ideas like clash essentially dead on arrival, when you see the same balance/kit issues go unresolved for years, they buff champions that are already strong and top of the meta, and when the matchmaker repeatedly puts you in stomps that one team has absolutely no chance of winning....does this give you the impression that riot is good at their jobs and that they know what they're doing?

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