A Simple, Easy Idea to fix Ahri

Sugar Momma·Aug 7, 2015·16 votes·1,406 views

is a tad overtuned at the moment. This is not a QQ thread saying how OP she is and how her win rate/pick rate are so high. I think her kit is actually healthy and fun to play as and has counterplay.

I think only one thing should be changed. Her Q should give bonus movement speed ONLY if it hits an enemy. I think that was the original purpose of the skill anyway: to help her kite. It definitely wasn't to help her chase or escape without her ult, which is what I think can be frustrating to deal with.

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HäßlichAug 7, 20159 votes

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is a tad overtuned at the moment. This is not a QQ thread...

It's a QQ thread.

Sugar MommaAug 7, 20153 votes

No it's not. I simply suggested a small nerf that would address something that covers up her weaknesses while also staying true to her gameplay.

Would you rather Riot give in to the REAL QQ'ing a few patches from now and just gut her then?

Ahrily Dont AhriAug 8, 20153 votes

Why not just half the movespeed boost if she doesn't hit a champion? Because I know for a fact that without the movespeed bonus being there most of the times she will be a lot more weak, due to the fact that her damage was gutted when dfg + charm amp got deleted. I still cry everyday over how little damage I do in lane. #tydfg #ripcharm

Sugar MommaAug 8, 20151 votes

Her E and W were given higher dmg at the time to compensate. There was a reason that she had a 59% win rate after her "compensations" after DFG was removed.

Sugar MommaAug 8, 20151 votes

Her E and W were given higher dmg at the time to compensate. There was a reason that she had a 59% win rate after her "compensations" after DFG was removed.

HäßlichAug 8, 20151 votes

Why would you think that someone who decries a QQ thread would want even harder nerfs or response to even more severe QQ? Backwards logic is fail logic. I'd rather Riot just leave her alone, because she's fine. She's not that hard to play against. In fact, if they nerf her much more, she will be unplayable, because you really only need to avoid her charm to beat her. It's completely a L2P issue.

LuggAug 7, 20154 votes

This is an outstanding idea. If Ahri mains don't think this is fair, gut her.

FadedpfAug 7, 20151 votes

Sounds like a reasonable compromise.

Sugar MommaAug 7, 20151 votes

Haha, I wanted to propose a nerf that would both be fair to Ahri (she still can use the skill to kite as Riot wanted it to be when they introduced the MS boost) and fair to those who play against Ahri (she's legitimately vulnerable pre-6/if her ult is down).

FebruAhriAug 7, 20154 votes

We can't just remove it without adding something else. That movespeed boost costed ahri 20% dmg amplification, range on W, R, and mana cost on Q.

I say give range back to W and R and I can do without ms boost

Sugar MommaAug 7, 20152 votes

Did you not read what I said? I even bolded it to make it as easy to read as possible.

She still will have the movement speed boost, just only if she actually hits an enemy with it.

FadedpfAug 7, 20153 votes

This would balance her Q. Because it gets used a lot as a "free ghost" to run away or get close, I don't think that is a healthy mechanic.

prologuęAug 8, 20153 votes

I main Ahri and i find this nerf pretty reasonable.... upvote

Silents429Aug 8, 20152 votes

What exactly does this change?

You consider her over tuned because she gets a brief movement speed boost? The "nerf" while fair will change nothing at all other then raise her skill floor very slightly.

Sugar MommaAug 8, 20151 votes

It'll make it so she can't use it as a free movement speed boost when chasing a fleeing enemy or escaping, unless she actually hits something with her Q.

Silents429Aug 8, 20151 votes

That doesn't accomplish anything, what is she suppose to do if she is escaping with low mana?

How is this making her overbearing?

DedriusAug 8, 20151 votes

Thats the point of the change is to give her a weakness, if she wastes all her mana then she shouldn't be able to escape freely just by spamming Q.

Silents429Aug 8, 20151 votes

She has weaknesses all this does is add one which fixes nothing.

DedriusAug 8, 20151 votes

she doesn't have many weaknesses, other than needing to land skillshots which isn't really a weakness it is just playing the champion.

Silents429Aug 8, 20151 votes

That and high mana costs, no sustain, reliance on her combo to do significant damage, weak CC, Squishy.

Nah the brief 0.5 second movement speed buff that rapidly decays is the problem.

DedriusAug 8, 20151 votes

She has sustain, she has hard CC, all champions that build full damage are squishy, and I wouldn't say it is a weakness that she has to land abilities to do damage (much like every mage).

Yes the speed buff was a huge buff to "compensate" for the DFG removal which is why she had a 59% win rate when it first happened and really strengthened her pre-6 which was previously her weakest point.

Silents429Aug 9, 20151 votes

It was her getting buffs across the board coupled with being a flavor pick.

DedriusAug 8, 20151 votes

This will make her weak pre 6 (which is what her counterplay should be) because she can't just Q and run away from any danger.

Silents429Aug 8, 20151 votes

Her counterplay is her reliance on skillshots and landing a charm. You simply dodge.