I think I've figured out how to make Volibear good again

Big Lincoln·Mar 6, 2017·1 votes·1,142 views

this beautiful item right here

Run 0/12/18; Merciless makes your W even more disgusting, and Dangerous Game compliments your passive. Running AS quints, AD reds, scaling MR blues and flat AR yellows; consider scaling CDR in place of the MR for more uptime on Q and R.

Build the usual / , , grab as your 4th item in a normal game, sooner if you're snowballing. Final item should either be if you want even more on-hit power and some raw HP, / for defenses + CDR, or for revive

gives you 2x damage every other hit on your ult, which at rank 3 turns it into 310 magic damage every 2 hits. With it, Volibear can actually do his job as a juggernaut and DPS tanks down, on top of being great at smashing squishy champions

start building this item, boys

9 Comments

Asayake 5150glowMar 6, 20172 votes

He already smashes squishies with item 3748 though, the active + his W give him a ton of burst.

Big LincolnMar 6, 20171 votes

Titanic still doesn't give him any ability to whittle down tanks, which is one of his biggest flaws (it does solve his lack of waveclear though)

i'll have to try out the buffed bork on him, too; he used to build it, and the new active might be useful for him

PermabannedGarenMar 6, 20171 votes

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Titanic still doesn't give him any ability to whittle down tanks, which is one of his biggest flaws (it does solve his lack of waveclear though)

i'll have to try out the buffed bork on him, too; he used to build it, and the new active might be useful for him

310 magic damage with no pen every two autos isn't going to help him whittle down tanks either tbh.

ParoeMar 7, 20171 votes

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310 magic damage with no pen every two autos isn't going to help him whittle down tanks either tbh.

You underestimate what 155 magic damage on a 1.75 attack speed does to people. Assuming you have asp runes you can get him up to 2.0 attack speed fairly easily and that WILL shred things when combined with guinsoos.

You do know why reksais Q was nerfed and why xin zhaos Q is broken, right? Its because theyre abilities that ADD on to basic attacks. Makes them extremely potent.

PermabannedGarenMar 7, 20171 votes

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You underestimate what 155 magic damage on a 1.75 attack speed does to people. Assuming you have asp runes you can get him up to 2.0 attack speed fairly easily and that WILL shred things when combined with guinsoos.

You do know why reksais Q was nerfed and why xin zhaos Q is broken, right? Its because theyre abilities that ADD on to basic attacks. Makes them extremely potent.

Xin Zhao gets armour and magic penetration in his kit, Voli does not.

So with this setup, Voli does 500-600 DPS to the training dummy in practice mode. Swap guinsoo's for a randuin's and he drops down to around 400 DPS, but with much more health and armour, a slow from randuin's active, and extra protection against the ADCs who will be auto attacking you in the face with their kits as you try to run at them. I don't think the increase in damage is worth it tbh, especially when it amounts to so little. His DPS is still much lower than another juggernaut like Yorick, Darius, or Trundle. He still won't be good at killing tanks. He'll just die more quickly lol.

Asayake 5150glowMar 7, 20171 votes

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310 magic damage with no pen every two autos isn't going to help him whittle down tanks either tbh.

It is if they don't have lotsa MR.

Also, CInderhulk damage.

Personally, I usually build tanks with 1 and a half MR items, 2-3 armor/health items, and then straight health or damage.

PermabannedGarenMar 6, 20172 votes

Guinsoo's is an incredibly greedy item. Among melee champions it's only really worth it on Yi, since bloodrazor plus blade of the ruined king plus wuju style gives him a lot of on-hits to make full use of the passive. Volibear has at best two if he gets a titanic, and frankly his two on-hits don't compare to the ones Yi is stacking.

Volibear also sacrifices a lot of late game tankiness with titanic and guinsoo's, and frankly the champion's kite is such that late game will pretty much always be his weakness. Later in the game he falls off and your build doesn't really fix that. Only now he will be dying more often lol.

Voli's problem is that he can't clear this stupid ass jungle.

Big LincolnMar 7, 20171 votes