@Reav3 I know Vlad's balance will be looked at, but can you look at his core issue as well?

WoonStruck··2 votes·276 views

Vlad has always had an issue 'getting the job done'. People have to stay in range of him and, ironically, he has a harder time with that than the large majority of melee champions. This isn't just a weakness. It almost stops the champion from functioning.

The new rework added to his 'functional unreliability' by also making him mechanically unreliable. He's absolutely going to need things added to his kit that will allow him to enable his own kit. Currently its all in the enemy's hands what Vlad is allowed to do.

The first place to look would be his MS buff. Right now its pathetic. At the very least, it should last the duration of his Q CD, capping at 3 seconds. Why so long? Because the MS buff is extremely low as well, and any shorter and it just becomes a laning tool (which Vlad doesn't need all that much).

Currently, everything about Vlad screams teamfighting. Hell, a huge portion of his 'power budget' was put into his ult heal, which was a huge teamfight buff. However, Vlad, ironically, has never been stellar at teamfighting because he can never get where he wants to be. I would rather trade that heal for an on-cast slow, tbh.

Vlad doesn't feel good since he can't do anything because he has nothing to get in range and no way to keep people in range long enough for him to make anything happen.

The only time Vlad feels good is when you're playing against people that have no idea what they're doing. That's not good champion design, and it needs to be changed.

**TL;DR: The new rework made Vlad mechanically unreliable when he was already functionally unreliable. Due to this, he'll still either be too overbearing or too unreliable to be worth using. If tools were added to his kit to make it more self-enabling, he wouldn't have these issues because he could actually make plays, rather than just follow-up on extreme mistakes that people might never make. **

And yeah, I realize he'd eat nerfs if he got tools to enable his kit, but I think he'd be in a better state of balance and actually be allowed to be viable.

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SaltyKracka2 votes

He'll build Rylai's and be the same unkillable uncatchable piece of shit as always.

WoonStruck1 votes

If you have almost any form of mobility, you catch him. Also, swifties.

And a lot of other champions do the same thing.

Cowgirl Ed1 votes

However, Vlad, ironically, has never been stellar at teamfighting because he can never get where he wants to be.

? ? ? Vladimir is one of those old skool ass mages that deal insane amounts of damages in teamfights. He can never get where he wants to be? lol Whatever, the heal on his standard Q is pathetic right now and the ms boost, I don't think we would have ever noticed it if it wasn't written in the tooltip

WoonStruck1 votes

He has no mobility, low range, and no way to get people in his range. So yeah, he can never get to where he wants to be. Compare to Swain, Cho, Ryze, Karthus. They all have tools to let them function where Vlad will not.

He doesn't even do 'insane damage' after the rework. It pretty heavily nerfed his damage. Its still high, but not enough to warrant picking over many other champions considering his issues.

Before that unreliability was worth it because his damage and sustain was so high. Now that both of those are being lowered in most cases, he's not going to be worth playing anymore unless he's over-buffed. In which case he'll subsequently be nerfed and never looked at until another rework.

WitchQueen Annie1 votes

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He has no mobility, low range, and no way to get people in his range. So yeah, he can never get to where he wants to be. Compare to Swain, Cho, Ryze, Karthus. They all have tools to let them function where Vlad will not.

He doesn't even do 'insane damage' after the rework. It pretty heavily nerfed his damage. Its still high, but not enough to warrant picking over many other champions.

Before that unreliability was worth it because his damage and sustain was so high. Now that both of those are being lowered in most cases, he's not going to be worth playing anymore unless he's over-buffed. In which case he'll subsequently be nerfed and never looked at until another rework.

OH GOD ANOTHER REWORK?

Heaven forbid...

I feel like old Vlad was like a spell-based ''ADC'' with lots of sustain. At least that's how I always approached him in terms of my play style.

Basically he wasn't a playmaker and had to rely on others to initiate or launch the plays unless the enemy mis-positioned. Once the fight starts, he enters and decides where he can best kite the enemy with his Qs and Es.

But now with this rework, I'm not sure that can be done any more... I mean, his sustain took a huge HUGE hit...

Cowgirl Ed1 votes

I don't know what the hell you are talking about dude. I honestly don't even think you play Vladimir Anyway let's not repair our head before it's broken. Wait for the rework to hit live

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